Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back, listeners, to the Tron Podcast. This is your host, Rashad Woods. Today I have a very special guest from the great state of Utah, CEO of Holly Porter International. Holly Porter. Thank you so much for coming on.
[00:00:10] Speaker B: Thank you for having me, Rashad.
[00:00:11] Speaker A: It's really a big honor. First of all, you know, I got to tell you, between your profiles and all the success that you've had in life in overcoming adversity, and, you know, I'm going to let you tell your story. I think that's important. But I just want to say it's an honor and a pleasure, and I'm glad you're here considering the things that you've gone through.
[00:00:26] Speaker B: Oh, well, thank you. Well, I'm glad I'm here, too. Yeah. There's been many days that I wasn't so glad I was here.
[00:00:32] Speaker A: Right, right. So, with further ado, please tell us about your background, your business career, your personal, you know, overcoming your personal items, illness. And like I said, you have a wonderful story.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: Oh, sure. And you feel free to interrupt me, too, if something needs clarified. Because sometimes you just get rambling and you don't realize there's an important detail maybe I'll miss.
[00:00:52] Speaker A: No problem.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: Well, so I was raised by two entrepreneur parents, and I started working for my dad in his office. He was a mason in Las Vegas, Nevada, growing up. And so I had to earn my own school clothes, money to buy them from 12 on up. And that's really where it all started. And I remember looking at a flyer on the wall that said minimum wage was $3.33 an hour, and I was only getting paid $2.50 an hour. Me and my dad had a little that. But I got humbled real quick because I was only 12 and, you know, that was child labor.
[00:01:30] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right, right.
[00:01:32] Speaker B: So I knew. I always.
What's that?
[00:01:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I said. I was just saying. Right. Yeah. He's like, well, not so much. Let's hold on a minute here.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: Prove your worth.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: Exactly. Exactly, please.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: So then. Yeah, so that just started. I knew. I knew pretty quickly. I did lots of babysitting as a teenager because I was from a really large family and I was only number three, so had lots of experience there. And so fast forward. I graduated from high school a year early, not because I was so smart. I just always was an old soul and had older friends. And I just wanted to get out in the world and have three jobs and have a family, and it just never stopped from there. That's exactly what I did. And so as My kids were growing up. Well, I've had 11 startup companies, not counting all the little things I've started with my kids and help them set them up. These were just my own.
[00:02:24] Speaker A: Wonderful.
[00:02:24] Speaker B: But as they were growing up, I had a. I, I did things that worked with the kids when I had them at home. So I had a children daycare at home and then I have had a preschool. I had a children's clothing store. So those were the three that I did as they were getting older and growing up. And then the longest ones I've had is a salon and spa.
I had that for about 20 years. We did hair, nails, skin, everything, massage, everything in there. And I had a license pretty much to do everything because I get bored easy and I just wanted to keep learning. I always want to keep learning. While I had the salon, we had a fundraising company as well where we would help youth groups and dance groups earn money so that they could get the things that they needed.
[00:03:10] Speaker A: Wonderful.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: And we had a concrete company. My husband's been involved in that over 40 years. I also got my real estate license and then a few years later got my broker's license. For real estate.
Yeah. So we were running three or four at a time. So that's. I'm. Otherwise I'd be about 110 do all those as many years as they were. But I loved entrepreneurship and business and in the town I was in when I was doing a lot of those at the same time, I was also president or chair of usually at least one or two organizations at a time.
And we were also raising eight children. So. So we had a whole house full of teenagers and life was busy. We were just, we were in it.
[00:03:55] Speaker A: Wow. And amazing.
[00:03:57] Speaker B: I look back now and I think, you know, yeah, I was a multi, multi tasker and was I present. And so there's so many lessons in that. Like, I mean, yeah, sure, I'm sitting on the soccer field, I'm the regional commissioner, over 1400 kids playing soccer, doing real estate deals, watching my four kids at the time playing, play. And sometimes they were on four different fields and different locations.
[00:04:22] Speaker A: You're just walking up and down the field on the phone at the same time doing what you got.
[00:04:25] Speaker B: So you're present but you're not really present. So lots of lessons there. But yeah, so then that was just kind of the, the past little blanket covered story. Fast forward a little bit into the pandemic when all of us suffered, not just me. I just happened to get the Delta version and landed myself 70 days in the hospital and I was on a ventilator for let's see, 52 days. And I was in a coma off and on about 30, 63 days on a feeding tube, two intubations, oh my God. A tricksectomy, I mean sepsis, lots of things, lots of life threatening days. And so it really shifted life and perspective. Those were the days that I laid there praying to die because let's start.
[00:05:14] Speaker A: To hear about that.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: When you lose your breath it's everything and when you don't have it it you end up ptsd, anxiety, depression comes in later after you're trying to heal. And the cool thing is I had a lot of experiences there. So I had. There's three things I'll just say real quickly, please. I had many out of body experiences. I had a spiritual transformational experience and I had a near death experience and those really to get that kind of guidance and, and know that you're supposed to be here. You didn't, you didn't live for nothing. I mean I remember laying there praying look, having this little chat with God. That's my higher power, whatever that is for anyone else and just saying you're not going to get me out of here or get me better than get me out of here. It was like the line in the sand here. Let's. Let's make a choice for sure. This is not a fun what I'm experiencing but I was shared a couple things the neck but I would love to share.
[00:06:13] Speaker A: That's what the show is for. That's what it's about.
[00:06:15] Speaker B: Please was I was pitching the day I found out I had Covid I was pitching a group of people that had this big audacious goal with tech companies and they had a billionaire background. And so I'm pitching with this new concept I had called a company called Retreat R and R. It's now incorporated. It was not then and I wanted to partner with them so bad. And when I was in my coma and having my near death experience, God told me not to. He said that that is not the highest and best thing to do with the company. It's going to take you longer but that's not what you need to do. And kind of devastating a little bit at the time because I was so excited about it and they would have the backing to make it happen faster. So that was one thing. Just fast forward. I listened and I incorporated the company about maybe 90 days or so after I got out of the hospital which I was still really sick. I was still on oxygen. I had Long Covid setting in all the diagnosis from everything that it had caused was coming in. How I did it. Miracle. I have so many miracles to my story. So many. One other one I'll just share real quick was I never had medical insurance. Entrepreneurs don't always have medical insurance.
And my husband was an entrepreneur, too. So how we raised eight kids and didn't have anything major happen. Another miracle.
[00:07:37] Speaker A: Oh, gosh.
[00:07:38] Speaker B: Two months before I got in the hospital, a friend of mine said, hey, there's some new plans out there. Let me just quote it for you. I think you'll be surprised. And I was. And we got.
[00:07:48] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh.
[00:07:49] Speaker B: And two months later, I'm in the hospital and I end up with a million dollar hospital.
[00:07:53] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I mean, you want to talk about. I mean, you talk about the sickness and then get sick when you. What do you. I mean, there's enough lines on the bill to even show that.
[00:08:03] Speaker B: I mean, that would bankrupt anybody 100%, 150%.
[00:08:07] Speaker A: So two months like it was. It was your faith that got you to make sure that that friend was in place to say, do this. And then you got out. And luckily you didn't have the financial burden to deal with something like that after you're trying to heal and actually get back. But, yeah, gosh.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: Yeah. So many. So there's just. There's always. Yeah, I have. I think I'm on, like, miracle number nine right now.
[00:08:30] Speaker A: Beautiful.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: Obviously, I'm keeping track because I care. I mean, they matter and miracles happen every day. So the second thing that I was shared with in my near death was to go start this nonprofit. And then I was told the name Adventure Bucket.
[00:08:46] Speaker A: I got that written down. I wanted to talk about that, too.
[00:08:48] Speaker B: And I wasn't really given any other guidance than that, which kind of stinks, but it's okay. That was a whole journey in itself of that. And so I'm. I'm not only starting this brand new company for Retreat R and R, which was a. It's a software company and tech company. I'm starting a nonprofit, too.
[00:09:07] Speaker A: And unbelievable.
[00:09:09] Speaker B: On top of that, I was still doing real estate, you know, so that was another miracle. By the way, I will share. I had my biggest real estate year in like 17 years or so that year that I got sick and I was in the hospital and I only worked eight months of that whole year. And financially, that was my biggest real estate year ever.
[00:09:29] Speaker A: That's amazing.
[00:09:30] Speaker B: That's another miracle.
[00:09:31] Speaker A: That's amazing.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: Like six weeks Before I, I went in hospital, I closed a $2.2 million deal, which I never even closed a million dollar deal up until then. Yeah, well, maybe a million dollar bill, but not two.
[00:09:46] Speaker A: That's unbelievable. That's a lot.
[00:09:49] Speaker B: Just, I mean, there was just so many amazing things that were, were there to the story. But yeah, so that, that's kind of brings us up to now and where, where I ended up. But I'm happy to answer any, any questions about that.
[00:10:01] Speaker A: Well, the crazy part about it is you covered a lot of bases and so I was a big fan of letting people tell their story rather than me reading it out bullet point by bullying point. You know, it's my job to hear what you have to say for this respective show. And so one of the things that I was really fascinated by was you're very active on social media and obviously your illness was your story to tell. Your trials and tribulations and success is your story to tell. What I thought was fascinating, you even posted pictures of yourself on the ventilator. So like, just to show like, I was like, wow, oh my gosh, she was in really bad shape. And then. But how do you handle eight kids, multiple businesses, nonprofits, getting out of the hospital and then you pick up like nothing ever happened.
[00:10:38] Speaker B: Oh, there's a lot that happened. But it's just, you know what I think it's just when I think for me, what gave me the will was I got my life back.
[00:10:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:50] Speaker B: I might have all this crappy diagnosis and the long Covid and all that came with it, but every day better was better for me.
[00:10:58] Speaker A: Right.
[00:10:59] Speaker B: And there were lots of sets. I still have setbacks. I'm not going to lie. I still do. This year I had a 10 week setback and I traveled through it. I, I don't think I gave any talks during that time, but I was traveling, doing things, and you just push through it.
[00:11:13] Speaker A: Right.
[00:11:14] Speaker B: But I also realized that God put me in a coma to get me to sit still so I would listen.
[00:11:19] Speaker A: Right, right.
[00:11:21] Speaker B: What a better way. You know, not for me.
[00:11:22] Speaker A: You know, it's funny, I heard a statement one time where people were asking, how did I get this, you know, indentation above my lip? It's like God put his finger over my mouth.
[00:11:32] Speaker B: That's the best.
[00:11:33] Speaker A: Like, dang, this dancer, right? So I always thought that was kind of funny. I'm like, because I have that indentation in my lip, right? So it's like, then I'm podcasting, talking. So, you know, let's talk. If you can more specifically about Adventure Bucket List Wish foundation, because it was for women entrepreneur team building. And I saw some of the pictures and things like that. So can you give some details and insight into that?
[00:11:54] Speaker B: Yeah. So that's the whole story in itself. Okay. Talk about shift. So entrepreneurs, business, people lifting, listening. This. This was a huge shift, and it was not an easy one for me. So I was given the name and not much more instruction. So within three months, I go in, I incorporate the company. We applied that year for the 501c3 nonprofit status, and I got it in 25 days. I claim that as another miracle because that doesn't. I don't think it usually happens that fast. So we had that and could move forward. Well, originally we were supporting Long Covid because when I got out of the hospital, I didn't have a cause. God didn't tell me what to do it for. He just said, start this nonprofit.
[00:12:34] Speaker A: Right?
[00:12:35] Speaker B: And to me, that was. I was still pretty sick. A Covid fog was there.
[00:12:39] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness.
[00:12:39] Speaker B: And it. It was an underserved community. I mean, we're well over a hundred million people who are suffering from Long Covid. Like, it's a lot of people, that many people. And so.
Oh, I think there's way more. And they just don't realize 200 symptoms are attached to it. So that's everything. If you think about a symptom, medical symptom, and there's 200 attached to long Covid. So a lot of people, they just haven't put it together yet. My. My issues started after I had Covid.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: Well, that would be.
[00:13:07] Speaker B: Anyway, so we went with that. That was. That was what the mission was. And it was fighting tooth and nail for everything. Nobody wanted to hear about it. It was just. It was a struggle. The whole thing was a struggle.
And so about. Let's see, I want to say a year and a half, two years in, because it was just a little over a year ago. I was recording, I had a podcast, and I knew something wasn't right, but I thought, just keep doing the podcast. But I took all the fundraisers off the calendar that year because I was like, something's not right. And I kept in the podcast, and one day I was recording, and I. All of a sudden, the girl's telling her story. She was a victim of COVID and had Long Covid, and she's telling her story, and I'm starting. I'm reliving mine. I could tell my breathing was bad. I was like, what is happening? You know, as I'M recording and I do video podcasts. And I was like, what? What's going on? And all of a sudden I got this huge download which is just your, you know, what, you know. And I basically hear this is not your mission anymore. This is your last podcast.
[00:14:10] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:14:10] Speaker B: I was like, I was actually pretty excited to hear that because I'd already.
I just felt like I needed that confirmation.
[00:14:17] Speaker A: Right.
[00:14:17] Speaker B: But to get it while I'm live on air interviewing somebody, a hard time finishing her poor story. I. I let her finish, but I canceled everything right after. And I was just like, all right. But then I.
Because then I'm thinking, all right, why would God tell me to start this nonprofit and then take it away? So I called one of my board members who's also an energy healer, and she said, if I remember right, you. You got the name, but you didn't get the cause. And I said, you're right. And she said, so keep the name and change the cause so that it was like, done. She says, what would light you up? What would make you excited? Because she knew it just was. It was depressing. And what I realized quickly was that I was living in wellness energy and that non profit was keeping me in negative and. And people wanted to be victims and. And I believe me, my heart goes out to anyone that has it. I get that. But I think because I was healed, turn the corner and I was getting.
[00:15:16] Speaker A: You need.
[00:15:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it just wasn't a map and brought me down.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: You know, the thing is about it too is like, ultimately one of the reasons I started this podcast for me primarily is because it's. Obviously I haven't suffered any sickness like that, but it was. You gravitate towards positive personalities and things that bring you joy and happiness. Right? And so hearing stories like yours, hearing entrepreneurs, you know, and not just the business side of things, but hearing the actual personal struggle, because people have a tendency just to see a beautiful image, all their success, their business website. But Holly has a story. And here you were, very successful overcoming an illness, and you said, you know what? This isn't making me personally satisfied. And all the signs are telling me not to do this anymore. And when your heart's not in it, you know, things go bad really badly because, I mean, you won't give the attention, the audience, the proper effort. You're depressed while doing it, and you owe it to the people, like, hey, you're better off receiving services from somebody who's going to put their heart into what you're talking about, as opposed to me, right? And, and it goes a long way. It really. And that's, that's an honest assessment. And so, you know, I, I thought, when I was reading about you, I said, we all say we're busy, but.
[00:16:19] Speaker B: I'm like, I don't.
[00:16:20] Speaker A: I have no excuses. This woman's got businesses, she's got non profits, she has publishing, she do retreats. You know, you get a spa. And I'm just like, how do you balance all this? This is nuts.
[00:16:33] Speaker B: Oh, sometimes not very well.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: It's a testament to your will, and I just want to give you a lot of credit for that because, you know, and your company is. How is Holly Porter International? Please talk about your company if you could.
[00:16:45] Speaker B: Yeah, so Holly Porter International evolved. It's been changed the name several times. It started with a main attraction, which was M A N E for the salon. It was called that. And then when I, when I moved away and I closed that down, I really didn't. Oh, I didn't close it. I closed the salon part of it, but I just changed the name. It was Prosperity Profilers before that. Actually, it was the image designers, because I was helping people because I, I was my own team. So I could go fly to somebody and I could spend two days with them and I could do their hair, their makeup, their color analysis, their personality profiling, closet revival, and professional shopping.
[00:17:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:26] Speaker B: And I didn't have to bring a team because I had a license for everything. So I changed, you know, just as things evolve, I would always work it in. And so I literally kept the same tax ID number for like four different companies because I would just evolve. And when it was Prosperity Profilers, I had events that I would do in Las Vegas every six months called the Prosperity event. And it was so fun. And I had to stop because of the pandemic. You know, it shut everything down for sure. And. And I, of course, I, I was. It took a long time for me to get better. I didn't really work a lot for about a year and a half. It just, I mean, it was.
[00:18:01] Speaker A: I mean, just get out of a coma and then out of hospitalization for 70 days, get discharged. And then they say, hey, two weeks later, go ahead and, you know, do wind, sprin or, you know, go to the gym. Like, no, like, that means you were just good enough to discharge. That doesn't mean you don't.
[00:18:13] Speaker B: Yeah, well, and I really wasn't. I just know how to bake. And they wanted to send me to a third rehabilitation place. And I'm like, I had it all planned out. My son had a house on one level. We weren't, we didn't have a home at the time. We were living when I got sick in a fifth wheel waiting to close on a house and we were parked house which was like a spa. Don't get.
I mean so here my husband, he was home sick most of the time while I was in the hospital. He couldn't even come to the hospitals and they wouldn't let him for three and a half weeks.
[00:18:45] Speaker A: How lonely is that?
[00:18:46] Speaker B: So he was on oxygen, blood clot, but not bad enough to get hospitalized. So we were both really fighting all that. And so he was in the fifth wheel a lot longer. But I mean that was another miracle how we were able to find another home and, and do that. But it took me a month before I couldn't even, I didn't even have the energy to get up the fifth wheel step with my oxygen tank because it was, I couldn't even lift it. I had no energy. And so until I could a month later out of the hospital, I could even do that. I, I couldn't even go back to the actual home that I was in. You know, the little confinement. But yeah, just, I mean there were so many amazing things but. Sorry, I was going to tell you, I didn't. So Holly Port International came out of all of those. I decided to brand it with my name because it became more business consulting and, and coaching and, and I love personal development. I'm all about that. I love motivating people and so I use that just my brand and then I, I have my other company.
[00:19:45] Speaker A: Right. So you know, and first of all, you don't have to apologize about anything on the show. It's all about you and the guest and their experience, what story they want to tell. But one question I was curious about when I was going on Holly Porter international.com was like, you help businesses, you're doing consulting. What area of business did you see that businesses, irrespective of their size, even if it's just a broad overview statement, did you find out what their weaknesses were and where you came in to help and what the, what they were missing and why they utilized your company?
[00:20:10] Speaker B: Honestly, because I, I such an empath, I feel like where people say they're going to hire a business coach, so to speak. And I really feel like a life coach matches it even better because almost every business I've ever talked with agrees with me that a lot of times the challenges you're having in your business is because of the challenges you're having in your life. And so it seems like when you go back in and you start doing more life coaching with people and helping figure out why that's dragging into their business, you, you help them repair and fix and correct a few things there and then everything changes, relationship changes, their life changes and their business changes.
[00:20:51] Speaker A: Right?
[00:20:52] Speaker B: So I really like transformational things that way, which is why I love retreats because they're, they're a little deeper dive. And when you bring people into hold and spend more time with them, you can dig a lot deeper.
[00:21:04] Speaker A: That's beautiful. And I've heard, you know, I mean, first of all, I can only imagine as an entrepreneur, you know, you're holding multiple hats, you're doing multiple things, and then sometimes the person themselves is the one that's not getting the most attention, right? Because you're focusing on closing a deal, you're focusing on employees, you're focusing on clients, perspective, sales, you know, if you have family of children and then all of a sudden you're the one that's not getting any attention in your well being. And then depending on anything that could, if any fault lines or cracks start to show in your personal life, then like you said, it can start bleeding into your business and it could bleed into the results and the performance of the company. And if it's just you and your family, you got to find a way to get out of that really quick. Because ultimately your next deal is how you feed your household.
[00:21:45] Speaker B: Well, think about it like if you have kids, if your listeners are listening and they have younger kids or high school kids, like we did has so many of them. It's, you see it coming out. So like where you're failing is when your kids start getting into trouble and they start doing things because you haven't been present and being there. And now all of a sudden you're dealing with truancy issues at school or you're dealing with what somebody out in the parking lot smoking some pot. I mean, trust me, we had a little bit of everything going on. And you blame yourself for sure.
[00:22:16] Speaker A: It doesn't. And here's the crazy part about it is people get judgmental. That doesn't make somebody a bad person person. What it means is that life freaking happens, right? That's all it boils down to. And so everybody just has to, you know, understand that we're not unique in struggles and things that we see and the things that can happen and it can happen to anybody, zip code, state, city, doesn't matter. It really doesn't. You know, and so.
[00:22:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I know.
[00:22:41] Speaker A: I was just gonna say it's just, you know, for anybody who thinks that somebody, you know, I just think it's very important not to pass judgment. You know, like I said, I mean, I'm a father of three daughters and, you know, they're not in high school yet. And I've already, you know, I have to change my approach to talking to him because my oldest one's, you know, 12. And it's like, you have to talk to that person. Like a person, right? Like an actual. It's not, they're not three or four. Where you can kind of dance around how you're talking to them. Like, no, you're having a full conversation. You're like, that's kind of an out of body experience. I have to sometimes look the other way. Like, am I really talking to him? Having a conversation with somebody that was in a crib, you know, it's weird.
[00:23:16] Speaker B: Well, the next thing you know, they're married with grandkids. You have those kids around and it's crazy. We have 18 grandkids with those.
[00:23:23] Speaker A: Just add it to another great things that you're great at because I'm sure you're a fantastic grandmother. You know, it's unbelievable.
[00:23:29] Speaker B: Oh, I wish I was a better grandmother. But, you know, I was going to share with you one other thing that I, I came out of my death experience because it's all about judgment. The message was very clear. Love them where they're at. And when you really think about those words, it takes that judgment away because that's just who they are. That's what they know and that's what they're becoming. And you can't make someone do something.
[00:23:53] Speaker A: No.
[00:23:54] Speaker B: Usually.
[00:23:55] Speaker A: Well, you know, you know, it's the same thing with this podcast, right? Like, you know, you know, it's obviously not parenthood, but listen, you know, I can't make anybody have a conversation with me. I have to have compelling content. I have to have a reason for people to come on here. Like somebody could be listening to me for the, the very first time. And so it's very important that at the end of the day, I have some sort of structure. I'm professional, I have compelling guests content. Because at the end of the day, people have a lot of options in life. They have a lot of things that are vibe for their attention. They have a lot of places they can go. They had a lot of real estate agents they could have reached out to instead of you. But because you had what you had the juice, so to speak, they came back and they wanted to do business with you. So yeah, when you find that little nugget or that area that you're good at, you don't take it for granted. Right? You don't. You know, you have to sit back and say, every day I'm gonna put my best foot forward because I need to present myself on a better level. Because people will take and go other places. Ultimately, they really will.
[00:24:50] Speaker B: Well, and my husband always reminds me, you know, when people see how busy you are, they think you're too busy for them. And I wish I could say, first of all, I want to say, do you want a busy people, the person doing something that you want to get done or do you want someone who's not busy? Because if they're busy, that means they're getting things done.
[00:25:08] Speaker A: Absolutely. 150%. 100.
[00:25:10] Speaker B: I'm like, everyone can make time.
[00:25:13] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:25:14] Speaker B: For what they want. Absolutely want something will make time for it. And for me, real estate pays my bills. So my motto is everything stops for real estate. Whatever's going on, that's. This is, this is my livelihood. So you just figure it out. Because like today I have a full schedule. What if somebody wants to go look at properties today there's a panic setting in because I've got stuff scheduled like back to back. So you just have to adapt and be flexible and just know that life can change on a dime.
[00:25:43] Speaker A: Well, for sure, for sure you do. And so it's even like. And I'll just leave it with this. When I start doing this podcast and people start having to get schedules on their calendar, that's when, you know, like they're carving out small windows and they got other stuff that's going on. So, you know, you need to honor their time and their busy schedules. You know, I always ask every guest, you know, that's on this show because you guys are smarter than me. I'm just a guy asking questions. Where can people find Holly Porter her story? And obviously there's more to you than just business. You touched on it a little bit, but where can people find you?
[00:26:12] Speaker B: Yeah, my whole near death experiences on lots. You could search that on YouTube. I've done a lot of shows on that.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: Right.
[00:26:18] Speaker B: But Hollypark.com is the easiest place just to if you want to connect or the non profit, you go check that out and you can also connect with us there. Adventure bucketwish.org it's beautiful.
[00:26:30] Speaker A: You know, and all social media and like I said, I got a chance to watch a lot of your clips and everything's very inspiring. And it'll I love the way that you keep the positive message out because unfortunately, sometimes the best positive messages don't resonate to the widest audiences. Right. It's usually somebody who something bad happened to somebody that gets the most clicks. So thank you for putting that light in. Yeah, thank you for putting that light out into the world. So I'm honored that you carved out time out of your busy schedule and your calendar. I hope we have a follow up conversation.
[00:26:58] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:26:59] Speaker A: Holly Porter, thank you for being on the Tron podcast.
