Numa Palmer- International Entertainment Sensation

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Tron podcast listeners, this is Rashad woods, your host today. And today I want to take a time out to really appreciate this special guest we have on here. International superstar coming over here to America to make her presence known. UNICEF all around, good person, humanitarian, celebrity. Welcome, Numa. Thank you so much. [00:00:18] Speaker B: And so that's why I do so much with the state, tell the stories and they help through the, you know, the atmosphere, you know, the magic, how to really lead people to a better state in a different dimension. And I use the pop music because the pop music is the music of the population, of the people. [00:00:42] Speaker B: And if you use it in a correct, ethical way, in a good way, energetical way, you use this tool to deliver very positive thought. How to transform, how to change, how to believe and how to create the. The energy of the music. Go beyond your, you know, your barrier. [00:00:59] Speaker A: You know, first of all, you know, I had a chance to really look up your information and obviously your music career, see a lot of your videos and you have a very energetic stage presence, wonderful music videos. So let's just get a little background about your music career, please. [00:01:13] Speaker B: Yes. Because you know, I do a lot of videos clip on my songs. Strange way to release my music because there is a purpose behind which I'm going to explain to other audience. First of all, I'm Italian, I'm from Rome, do my best to speak, speak the best English that I can. As I said, if I make some mistakes, please correct. The music for me is just a tool. It's a proper tool. It's super powerful. It's a strong tool by image, words and sounds to help people heal, to overcome the problems, to change, to transform, to get inspired. Right? [00:01:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:47] Speaker B: Your subconscious. And even if you drive, you know, you drive your car, you have a shower, you just was it busy on the background. Yeah. Start to heal you and work inside you and make yourself better, make you, inspire you. So what happened that if you listen the wrong music, which means that the one that takes away the energy, you're nowhere because you just. You distracted, you know, I mean, you're somewhere else and you say I'm cooking. No, it's just music background. [00:02:15] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:02:16] Speaker B: That one is the. It's like a. It's the real moment which catch you tied you and affect you as suddenly you feel with a day caught in a bad mo mood or the crest or Saturday. You don't know why you will. You will not put together the two things because you can listen to wrong music, the one, the wrong messages, the wrong energy. So that's my way that I started a long time ago to make music with this kind of purpose to say how can I use this amazing tool this amazing delivery this mantra in a very nice cool way and happy way and energetic way fun way sometimes but they really make a difference really can help people and that's why I started to do music in this way. A lot of video clips, a lot of visuals, a lot of messages. [00:03:07] Speaker A: Right. I thought it was interesting right. From a guy who doesn't speak a lick of Italian. You can still feel the emotion of the artist when they're singing right. You can tell when it's a pop up beat song. You can tell when it's more emotional and more serious. So the language that somebody doesn't speak if you listen close enough you can kind of see can see hear the message that's being conveyed and the manner in which they're presenting it. And so when I went to your website and I saw Trayla Terra El Sola so I was like oh that was a beautiful video between thank you. [00:03:37] Speaker B: To mention this video clip it's called which means between the Earth and the sand. Okay if people wants to just simply have a look of the video even without understanding the words I'm sure that I'm wonderful video percent yeah because you can see see I was interpreting because for me it's like a. It's a movie It's a movie that tells you a very deep story. So I was interpreting an alien it was coming in with a spaceship. [00:04:03] Speaker A: Yeah yeah that was really cool. [00:04:06] Speaker B: Was in trouble Was it really on on the edge the destruction destruction. [00:04:13] Speaker B: Or to save to get to recover find a way to save itself and and the message is we don't have to wait some hours from the sky to an alien to save us right in our hands it depends for our decisions depends on our capacity to be responsible to do our small part every single day. If you see the video they show you people like a robo they are completely numb because you know the environment the pressurized by the tonight yes power on people but you also can see the beauty and incredible power of the nature and the good choices. So depends who are you who choose to be yes what direction you want to take that's the message of the video clip the visually was very. [00:05:04] Speaker A: I thought it was very powerful right because it showed all facets of how life can go right. And here it was this outside presence which was you in the video of here's the good, here's the bad here's. And ultimately we have to cohabitate this earth together. Right. So we're talking over. Over this recording software. But we're very small in the res in the presence that what happens in Italy affects the United States of America. You know. And so it comes to the point where we all live this earth together and we have a responsibility to bring the best of our humanity out. And that's what I took from that very powerful video. [00:05:37] Speaker B: Yes, absolutely. There is something that we need to understand. If you want to really save the world, to use them are using this big word, save the world. Yes. If they will save our home, save our future for us, for our children, for our history. It's just we need to understand that we think that everything is bigger than us. It's an illusion. We extremely powerful. Depends how much we committed each of us. I mean, I don't live my plastic bottle on the beach. If I see a starving cat now I found a bird that fallen from the nest and I feed him every day. And I try to save the bird. I don't save the world. I'm safe. The bird giving a massoa put guy outside my door. That was to say I'm super hungry. I didn't have $100 to give him. I had just $4 and I gave him what I had. Right? [00:06:33] Speaker A: Beautiful. [00:06:33] Speaker B: That mean that every single day I try to do my little. To be connected, to be aware, to don't lose the confession, their empathy and my commitment, big, small, whatever it is to make my part in this world. So guys, if you think that we are billions, if all of us can do that, it can change the entire world. We don't need to be Superman, right? We don't need to be super rich, super powerful. Because each of us has a lot of problems to deal with as a pro economic problem, health problem, life problem. We know how that life sometimes can be extremely tough, right? Although we can do something every single day and can promise you the power of these gestures is so effective in a good way, you know what I mean? And going to affect the in a good way that the person, the person, the person, the entire world, the Thai nature, the birds, the sky, the weather. We have no idea how much we can affect in a good way. We can do if we take some little responsibility. Responsibility every single day or action in our thought. [00:07:44] Speaker A: That is absolutely correct. And you know, it sounds like a cliche, but a little kindness goes a long way. And I thought what was really fascinating was your music again, I'm listening to it in my car and I could just feel the upbeat and then I'm watching the videos and you're always lively, interactive. So at the beginning when you started your musical career, you know, people have a tendency to. To want to go a certain path in life. Was this always what you wanted to do was to always entertain and make music. Was that in your DNA from the very beginning? [00:08:14] Speaker B: It's a call. I think there's something that many artists to say would say so. And I understand that because. [00:08:21] Speaker B: You woke up, you're just born like that. As Lady Gaga says, born in this way. I can understand that because you're born in this way. All of us born in this way. It means that all of us has talented, all of us has aspiration dreams. And if we go through our inside our heart, we discover. I always wanted to do that. I always wanted. I always thought that I want could. I could do that. Just you need to get in touch with. With your inner voices and your inner child which tells you exactly who you are. When I want to be and where you want to go, where you want to go. It's just a matter of, you know, pay attention on your inner voices. Which I did since I was born. And in my case because this. I'm born in this way. I noticed it. That was a true acting, singing, dancing, doing this kind of entertainment. Then that would make sense. They give also deliver also some good messages. [00:09:11] Speaker A: Yes. [00:09:12] Speaker B: In the middle. You know what I mean? [00:09:13] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. [00:09:14] Speaker B: Among among the amusement, the party and everything. And then in the first school, you know, when I was 5 years old, 6 years old, 10 years old. [00:09:23] Speaker A: That's amazing. That's amazing. [00:09:25] Speaker B: Changing the mood. They were in crisis with the parents. They didn't go well in the school. They were, I don't know, all kind of stuff because, you know, I'm. Unfortunately, the problem starts very early. You need to be adult when you're really kids. You start to see that something was going on and I was there to say, hey, come to dance with me. Hey, come to sing with me. [00:09:44] Speaker A: Hey, beautiful, beautiful. [00:09:47] Speaker B: See the difference. So it's a call. And then I develop. Developed it. It was growing inside me. I was as full as. I shouldn't say that because people need needs to be focused on the study. [00:10:01] Speaker B: Instead to do my studies. I was writing my songs, writing my lyrics in my, you know, how would my show would like would look like. I was during the breaks of school. I was listening, you know, rehearsing my choreography. I mean I was. I was completely living another. [00:10:17] Speaker A: That's awesome. [00:10:17] Speaker B: But. [00:10:18] Speaker A: But see, that's the. But see, that's the thing, like I think there's something to be said like of following your own path, finding your own voice and being authentically you. So this show, which is about my guest, but not myself. I'm a geek and I've always been a geek. And so the show that I created was to bring out my geek. And so growing up it's kind of odd to be kind of like into nerdy stuff, but as you get older you're just like, I don't care what people think. You found that out earlier that it was. [00:10:47] Speaker B: I didn't care since I was born. And I tell you what, let me say something that honestly is a part of the story because I'm sure that many people maybe can find theirself in what I'm saying. [00:10:59] Speaker B: In a very. In a. In a. The first part of my life has been extremely hard and tough because their reaction of the mean on the. On the environment wasn't that good. [00:11:11] Speaker B: Because you know, I didn't have a, you know, political power or money power. You know, when you have some kind of statement which unfortunately in these. In this world make a lot of. Make difference. Of course, because you are who you are not. So you are. You're entitled to. Yes, I was. I was pretty poor. I was. I didn't. I did have a broken family behind me. I mean I didn't have any. You say blackout. So I mean I was bullied in a school full. I was. Nobody wants to sit with me on the desk, you know, when you work. Nobody wants to come with me on a break. Nobody wants to hold my hand because you know, kids can hold their hands. [00:11:51] Speaker A: So you're doing this all by yourself? You're doing this all by yourself? [00:11:54] Speaker B: Yes. I mean the teacher was keeping me close to behind his own desk because I. When I was a kind of alien, I was rejected to wear the. The uniform. Don't do that. Hard to tell you, but I was there. I mean, and so I was like this kind of alien that I didn't have a boyfriend, you see, because nobody want. Want to date a girl like me. Because I was always not too smiley connected to the deepening and to sparkle and. And I, I. When I was a little, little girl. I have to say the truth to the audience. I start to getting suddenly in a deep depression. [00:12:31] Speaker A: Sorry about that. [00:12:32] Speaker B: I mean my vision wasn't in the beginning because I need to grow my consciousness. I would not need to grow inside me. My spiritual awareness was start to growing. So was the early days so in the beginning, just things didn't match my world. My delivering my dreams, my way to feel people, to read people. Because we are also medium. Medium in our family. So we do channeling. We just speak with spirits. So we look people in the eye and we understand what's going on. We get receive messages. It's also this part of my life that maybe we go to the disclosure. So the rest of the world wasn't like that. So I start to say, wait a moment, but is me wrong or what? I mean, I'm that person. Something wrong with me. [00:13:20] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's okay to question yourself, you know, because you know, ultimately those insecurities manifested themselves into who you are now. [00:13:27] Speaker B: Yeah. So that's what I was about to say. So I've been through this youth age, youth life that my. I was very, very sad. What I'm doing here, people doesn't understand me. [00:13:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:40] Speaker B: And that's helping me to push even harder in my artistic creations. So keep delivering, keep transforming. Find my own answers. And there was just love. [00:13:51] Speaker A: Beautiful. [00:13:51] Speaker B: I learned very quickly, you know what the forgiveness because I was angry like any kids are a certain point of my life. Not the beginning, as I said, just a section of my life which are things the matchup between me and. And the outcome. So then I. I love this father that was very against me. I thought the father and even for the half part of my life was very anti me. So you're not good enough. You're not beautiful enough. You're not able to do nothing. You will never succeed. So I mean so what I have to do very, very, very, very soon in my early life to learn how to forgive. [00:14:30] Speaker A: Sure. [00:14:30] Speaker B: Let it go for sure. Forgive and let it go. Which doesn't mean guys that everything's can come. Everyone can come to you and slip in your face. [00:14:39] Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. [00:14:40] Speaker B: No question. Give you don't worry, do what you want. [00:14:44] Speaker B: No, no, no. It doesn't work like that. [00:14:46] Speaker A: Correct. [00:14:46] Speaker B: I say you need to understand which part of you allowed to believe that you don't worthiness. [00:14:53] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:14:54] Speaker B: Allow. What side of you say that? Kind of allow these things inside you. Right. When you understand that it's the more you're conn. The more you love yourself, more you love the life that you're doing. And the more you want to embrace your path. So no matter what, you become powerful. Not arrogant. [00:15:11] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:15:12] Speaker B: Not aggressive. You become powerful. It's something different. You become connected. What happens you can release that, you can let it go. [00:15:21] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:15:21] Speaker B: Which means that I don't say that it's okay that you come in my life and you abuse me. Simply, first of all, I don't allow you anymore. [00:15:28] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:15:29] Speaker B: Second, I let you go, I leave you go. Because that's disconnect me from the energy and I turn my connection to a complete different path. We completely different people with completely different sharing. So this is a forgiveness. Forgiveness, you see. Understand that part of us allows some abuses and we are able to let it go. Right. Because we want to connect with different things. So we don't want to bring in our present, in our future, our past. [00:15:59] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:15:59] Speaker B: Because otherwise we would never. We never. [00:16:01] Speaker A: You'll never grow. You never grow, you know? [00:16:04] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:16:04] Speaker A: And I thought that was fantastic. Because the reality about it is a lot of people still carry their scars from what was and not what they're looking forward and what they can become. And so your music again, you know, you have multiple languages that you speak. And I've seen some English ones, I've seen some Spanish ones and I've seen some of the Italian ones. I want to talk about your single, you Drive me crazy. So the video, you Drive me Crazy, you film that in Miami. What's that single like? I really enjoyed that song. [00:16:29] Speaker B: Thank you, thank you, thank you to ask me. Because, you see, it's a part of my, you know, my delivering, I mean, the messages sometimes to make some songs that are also very happy, very light, but deep in the same time, you know, light doesn't mean shallow. Light is light. [00:16:48] Speaker A: Right. [00:16:48] Speaker B: But not shallow. [00:16:50] Speaker A: Right. [00:16:50] Speaker B: Which means I wanted, in this specific case, use the feminine energy. So, you know, when. [00:16:59] Speaker B: A woman wants to discover the. Also our beauty, our sensuality in a very nice way. [00:17:09] Speaker B: So the song is about to encounter can drive you crazy. Which means make you feel butterflies. Butterflies, yeah. Make you feel even more beautiful, even more sexy. Doesn't matter if you are or not. I mean, it depends. We are. We all are inside to make ourselves outside, super beautiful, super sexy, super attractive. That's the meaning, right? You don't have to correspond to what the TV tell you. If you're not blond, you're not younger, you're not taller, you're not think you're beautiful. Sexy woman. Who said that? [00:17:40] Speaker A: Exactly. Exactly. [00:17:42] Speaker B: Who say that? You beautiful because you feel to be beautiful. You sexy because you feel to be sexy. And you become sensual and you become attractive because. Because you, when you feel to be like that, you are like that. So. [00:17:54] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:17:56] Speaker B: Because I am 56 years old. [00:18:00] Speaker A: Okay, wonderful. [00:18:01] Speaker B: I am 50 years old. [00:18:02] Speaker A: So. [00:18:02] Speaker B: Which means that. [00:18:04] Speaker A: So. [00:18:04] Speaker B: Which. [00:18:04] Speaker A: So. [00:18:04] Speaker B: Which means that when I put myself in bikini and I want to be. I want to express my sensuality or my. [00:18:13] Speaker B: Physical or anything. I mean, I just want to say I want to be me. [00:18:18] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:18:19] Speaker B: Feel beautiful every single day of my life. Even I have 80 years old. You know what I mean? I will film. I want to feel sexy. I want to feel. [00:18:28] Speaker A: Anyway, it seems like there's some sort of cap on when people are supposed to stop doing that. Right. Like there's some artificial, you know, ceiling on the head of society that says at a certain age you're not supposed to do certain things. Right. Like, you know, hey, put that shirt. [00:18:43] Speaker B: Come on, guys. But look. James Fonda looks. I mean. Yeah, you mean America finally have to say more. More than a Europe finally America kind of understand that. [00:18:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:53] Speaker B: I mean, start to understand that a lot. That that's why that in. I'm so for me, so close to. To American people and the mentality and. And the efforts that they try to. [00:19:05] Speaker B: Change to shift the energy of the country. Yeah. Which are feeling really part of this change, you know. So when I say when I. In fact, if you see the video clip, guys, if you could see it, okay, the lyrics are, you know, happy, I'm simple, you may wear a locust. You drive me crazy. I want to make love to you. I want to be video for you. This specific song wants to be like that, Right. It doesn't talk about the end of the world or how to change the environment. [00:19:30] Speaker A: For sure. For sure. [00:19:31] Speaker B: But it's very important because if you say see the video clip. What are we. We did with director Luca Bitsy. My. My amazing director Luca Bitsy, my brother and my fantastic director. We've been here in Miami because Miami. [00:19:44] Speaker B: I mean, I'm in love with Miami. Yeah. Because, you know, the sound. [00:19:48] Speaker A: I've been to Florida. I haven't been to Miami yet though, but I've been to Florida a bunch of times. But I'm. [00:19:52] Speaker B: So what we did with. We. We want to mix the images of this woman that wants to be sexy, wants to be woman wants to be feminine, wants to be. Doesn't matter the age, but the man just feel like that. So also I. I wear in a very nice and casual clothes also during. During. If you see the video clip. And I go to the. I went to the center in, you know, the. Where there is the. The Wilts in the center of Miami town. That there is a proper. The market, the marketplace. And I start to run in the middle of this. [00:20:24] Speaker A: You know, I saw that. I did see that that was wonderful. [00:20:27] Speaker B: And running opening my arms really was live. Nothing was absolutely prepared and see who was coming me to come to me hugging me beautiful and be. I saw that I was hugging completely. I mean unknown never. I mean person that I never met before. We started dancing and shaking our bum together and it was so cute. And. And I saw. And that's what the message. Which means that to feel alive any moment or. [00:20:56] Speaker A: You know, it's always funny because I always hear when critics call something pop music and I do understand why it's called that. But I always found that when it's called pop music that somehow it's less than music. Right. Like when people think of classic music. When people of rock they kind of think of a higher echelon of music. But then when people say pop it automatically it's about yeah, right. Like it doesn't have. Like it's not as serious or it's not as. It doesn't matter as much. And I kind of hate that name personally because how many times have you just sat in your car, bobbed your head like man, this has me in a really good mood. Man, I talked to that girl. When I had the song in my head, I got over my nervousness about a certain situation because this song gave me confidence. So pop music, it kind of seems like, oh, it's not as real as the other music that's made and somehow it's less than. That's my opinion. [00:21:44] Speaker B: Careful guys, because you know, I really belong to an old style school. Which means that we do real music. Which means that we do. There are people playing Korea. [00:21:57] Speaker A: Correct. Right. [00:21:58] Speaker B: Musician international. I asked a collaboration and I share collaboration with the most incredible people producer and musician in the world. I had the honor to write some songs with Alan Cracker, which is from Dire Straits. [00:22:11] Speaker A: Amazing. [00:22:13] Speaker B: Remember who are there? Who are the Dire Straits? You know, because Dire Straits, I mean, speak about yes men in the world. [00:22:19] Speaker A: Yes. [00:22:19] Speaker B: I had the chance to write songs with a guy called Peter Godino that is actually still at Depeche Mode. I had the unbelievable. [00:22:27] Speaker A: Wow. I love Depeche Mode. I love Depeche Mode. [00:22:31] Speaker B: And he's the pianist and the singer of the Peshmood. Peter Bourdino. Yeah, one or two. Write a couple songs with him. And I had the honor to. To arrange and produce and write for superstar celebrity in Italy and all around the world with a guy called Phil Palmer. Phil Palmer is the. Was the guitarist and session guy of Eric Lepton. Daniel Street. [00:22:55] Speaker A: Yes. [00:22:55] Speaker B: George Michael. We're talking about one of the most important musicians in the world. [00:22:59] Speaker A: Yes, we. [00:23:01] Speaker B: And I had the honor, honor and just honor to work with Trevor Orne because we did with. We had. I was involved in a very important production with Italian singers, super famous. And. And he came to. And he honored me with his. On one of my song called say two, which is one of. One of my happiest song ever that I have written. Beautiful production. I know that we have the AI that does the work for everybody. It's not my way, my ways to. To do music for real. I spend my own money. I get broke if I have to. Yeah. I still go studio and I still make real music. Of course the AI and the. And the scenes and the sound. [00:23:43] Speaker A: Of course. [00:23:45] Speaker B: My friends are not my boss. Are my friends not my boss. I am the boss of my music. Beautiful, wonderful people. Still with the bass. What about. Wait a minute, I can use the AI Sounds amazing. Cost nothing. Why I have to pay a session on the guy. Because the guy is a real one. [00:24:05] Speaker A: Because it's a real musician. Correct. [00:24:07] Speaker B: I mean that guy was on the stage with the island, know, with Eric Clapton and Mark Knoffer. Tina Turner. [00:24:14] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:24:14] Speaker B: Sorry, I'd rather to call him the AI in this specific case. So we need to be. When we do music, we need to be ethical, we need to be balanced. We need to be. We need to be so good to combine the modernity and the facilities and the beautiful things that we have now. The digital, the new things that we have. And also don't forget that the music comes from this. [00:24:37] Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. [00:24:39] Speaker B: You know what I mean? And I don't go to buy my. My best pair of shoes. I promise you, I don't. I'm not ashamed to tell you that I prefer to buy my shoes in, you know, in a Little Market for $10. [00:24:51] Speaker A: Right. [00:24:51] Speaker B: Use my music, the money to invest in what I believe make the difference in my life. I don't buy expensive food if I don't have money. I don't have money. But I use it too because, you know, sometimes say, okay, you're rich. [00:25:03] Speaker A: I don't. [00:25:03] Speaker B: I'm not rich for sure. You know what I'm saying? Rich because I invested too. Because I love too much my job. So I put so much in it. [00:25:11] Speaker A: You do. And it. It reflects in the quality of the work that you did, that you continue. [00:25:17] Speaker B: To do and you know, quality, I can tell you, and the power that I have to run my own shit. Beautiful guys, Surprises. Guys. [00:25:26] Speaker A: I think that, you know, outside of your musical work, the one thing I was very honored to read about you. Was that you do animal welfare. And your song Promised Land was dedicated to support people fleeing poverty war. And it was played. It's one of the songs of UNICEF as well too. Can you talk about that please? [00:25:43] Speaker B: You know, Moody Blues Blues are very famous. And unfortunately in this moment is leaping from my mind. The name of the. Of the main singer, the known in America is extremely famous. So I apologize for that. The guy gifted me gave me as a present. [00:25:59] Speaker B: Keep track of the song. It's called Promised Land, which was played by him and a bunch of amazing super top musicians in the world. So we re modernized the backing track and we turn into the song Promised Land because we want to deliver these powerful messages. How each of us can make a difference with our generosity and our commitment and our gesture a little bit better. And you know, also UNICEF among a lot of incredible other missionaries. People that really give them. They mean devote their only life to really go on the field and go to safe lights and have people doctors or simple people that just, you know, on the expense just take. Take a flight or to take a car and just go on the sites on the field and go out people. So I support everybody want to make any effort eager to help. [00:27:00] Speaker A: Right? [00:27:00] Speaker B: Okay. So. And this music's helping a lot because if you UNICEF gave us to us the images they duty on the field. So you can see what you see are real. You see that the bomb and people. [00:27:17] Speaker B: With the children in the arms. And you see. [00:27:22] Speaker B: The UNICEF and all the, you know, the structures and people that are trying to physically technically help with food, medication. And they are heroes, of course because of course we're talking and they do the fact. You know what I mean? But the music once again did a lot because the song has been and being sold by charity and raise a lot of money. The song honestly inspired I mean billion people. Because once again the words and the visual it's effective in a good way. So people see, hear, listen, see. And their emotion make them move something for them. Maybe they can offer €1, whatever. Okay. Maybe be more concerned, a little bit more group. You know what? At least they pay attention because we die when people is. Is neglecting you. And turn the head on the other side is that way that we die when people instead all of us, we. We see, we acknowledge. We say, you know, Avatar says I see you. Right? There was this important phrase that if you saw Avatar, that there was the. This lady Arian. They say to the other guy, I see you. Which means you exist for Me, Right. I know I acknowledge you and it's kind to say I love you. [00:28:41] Speaker A: It's an acknowledgment of somebody's humanity. [00:28:43] Speaker B: Right. [00:28:43] Speaker A: It's an acknowledgment of somebody's humanity and their right to live. [00:28:46] Speaker B: Right? And that's what the music does. And that Promised land did, of course, thousand efforts, proper efforts, Beautiful, amazing. People did the right things all around the world. But the music does something. I can promise you. When the song start in a huge event and become the theme. No. Of this incredible meeting on the people are united to. To really want to feel this brotherhood and the song start and you see the images. You help. Trust me. You help energetically. You have to believe me on that a lot. Convey the spirit, then the spirit and awareness and the attention to make happen something that then becomes concrete. And then also the charity. Because people pay to give money for charity, Right. And that's. Money actually goes in food, in something that really can make the difference. [00:29:43] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:29:44] Speaker B: But I'm honored. [00:29:46] Speaker A: And then. Yeah, I thought it was beautiful and I thought that's a great part. You know, you're multifaceted and talented. You know, things that you do in the endeavors that you get yourself in. What is your goal to get over to America, to be the superstar that you are over in Italy and in Europe? I. [00:30:00] Speaker B: You know what? I am happy to answer this question immediately. Just because I was connected with the previous question. I want to say something that maybe is nice. [00:30:09] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:30:10] Speaker B: When we do. And that's something that I also suggest to my colleagues too, and everybody that can have the honor and the civility, the chance to do this. Very often when we do some gig, we've been invited in a place where it's super cool, super elegant, and we. We cherish the moment. We cherish the environment and, you know, the richness, the popularity and the gig or the audience. When afterwards you save some times and then you go to see. I don't know, you go to say hi to school kids, you know, orphans or simply kissing. For kids, there is a very important. To give a. To try to affect them in a nice way. So to give them a kind of inspiration to it. Moment. [00:30:55] Speaker B: Do it. Because what we do. But you know, very often after my gig, we decided the day after to go to say hi to that school. [00:31:02] Speaker A: Beautiful. [00:31:03] Speaker B: To say, the hospital. We go to say hi. Oh, you know, in on that family. And that is the. The moment that you feel blessed, you feel less hopeless. You know what I mean? I know this makes sense. What I'm saying yes, powerless. Because you don't you see that you can do something. It doesn't matter. I cannot stop the war. I mean, I cannot stop Putin and the Ukraine to make a war. But what I can do, I have to do. If I can do that little thing, have to do that beautiful. Because it's my little in this world that I can to make a difference. [00:31:40] Speaker A: Correct. [00:31:41] Speaker B: So who can has to do that? Who has a chance to give a smile, to give a moment of release, a moment of peace, you know, hug. I spend some time with old people, with dogs and cats. [00:31:57] Speaker A: Wonderful. [00:31:59] Speaker B: Please, please do it. Just buy a teen, it's less than €1 and give that a little thing to that cat that you probably would never see anymore, but you did. It is a. It's a super powerful, powerful drop in. In the ocean. So do it, please. So what I do every time that, you know, when I, When I get in Miami or I get in any. [00:32:22] Speaker B: I bring some tin of cat food, dog food in my bag. So my bag is already heavy full of stuff. We should say what, you bring it with you? Because I never know. I mean, I found a bird, I found a cat, I found out. [00:32:36] Speaker B: Something. I mean, we live in the momentum now. We try to help. [00:32:39] Speaker A: Well, that's why you're called the singer of self empowerment. Exactly. [00:32:42] Speaker B: Self empowerment any moment, you know what I mean? Our life. Because that's what self empowerment, self empowerment. We empower every single moment just because by our choice. [00:32:55] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:32:57] Speaker B: You know what? First of all, affect us with this beautiful energy and power and eventually the other one. [00:33:04] Speaker A: Exactly. And you know, whatever goodness you put into the world, it makes a bigger impact than you think that it did. Because like, a guy who can't speak Italian, who has not been to Italy, has been greatly impacted just by listening to your music. Because immediately when I got and I, I listened to it in my car and that upbeat tone hit, I immediately got lifted into an okay, now this is gonna make, you know, you're not as sleepy. You're not. You don't, you know, your mood. The music you listen to matches your mood. And I know it sounds like for people, like it really, truly does. When you're working out, you may want to hear something a little more heavy, but once you start doing like Zumba or something like that, you want to hear like something that you can kind of pop back and forth to a little bit. Right. [00:33:42] Speaker B: So I suggest to the audience that, you know, I really suggest something. And because I teach technical energies. Okay. Yeah, I do I am a teacher of a certain time. I'm once again an emotional imbalance. [00:33:54] Speaker A: Right. [00:33:54] Speaker B: And so I have a lot of people that comes to me with a session together and we overcome the traumas and you know, and this kind of, can I say obstacle and sabotage day we all have even sometimes we're not aware about that. We just feel stuck. We don't know how. And I help people to overcome these traumas and then become successful. [00:34:13] Speaker A: Right. [00:34:14] Speaker B: And hopefully also joyful. That's one side that I said that why I said that because you really need to understand what you listen to in a tv. Tv, you know, music, Music wise. TV wise. Please listen. I tell you with my own art, you there is a big misunderstanding. There is a. [00:34:34] Speaker B: Lie which is we think that. Okay, I see them, I. I listen that song. They're talking about some. Something very sad because it made me feel less alone because I can see the other people. [00:34:47] Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. Exactly. Right. Or you know, when you hear like a song or a mistake. [00:34:55] Speaker B: Right. It's the hugest mistake we can ever can do. Because I promise you, if you recognize yourself in another drama and you join the drama, the drama just, just double, triple, you know, you give a power or the tragedy. But if you worried that nobody see you in your drama says I want to, I want to be seen. I mean I'm suffering. I mean if I look happy, people think that I'm okay. I'm not okay. So I need to show that I'm not okay. It is another way to be seen and be and get helped. Absolutely not join more drama. [00:35:32] Speaker A: Right. [00:35:33] Speaker B: Not to feel less alone by surround yourself with people that have the syndrome. Right. To connect in a song that tell you horrible things and then. And throw up or invent all the anger and all the protest and all that. I can tell you that just empower your desperation. Yes. Empower your confusion. And also physically, biologically, it just. You go in the Internet, if you just see it's the science. It's. It's a chance. You know what I mean? Your body weakness and your self defense yourself, your body start to shut down and you get disease. [00:36:12] Speaker A: Yes. [00:36:12] Speaker B: Extremely, extremely serious. What you listen, what you hear and you wake up in the morning, you start to release. [00:36:17] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:36:19] Speaker B: I don't say that you have to reject the external world. I don't say that, you know, you have to deny what's going on aside. It's the way that you, they. You do that, that though because of course keep an eye, keep, keep an ear. Of course what's going on in the rest of the world. You know, you get to know that by. In which way you want to deal it. What are you doing the first time things they don't open the teaching you listen afterwards when you center yourself so you know that you can kind of understand what can be okay. What can be a lie, what can be highest. You. You. You're more in yourself. You're more. You know, you're more imbalanced. Energetically speaking. The first thing you have to do in the morning, you have to listen the right music. You have to dance. You know, you feeling Dance. Dance. Yeah. Just. Just a team. But like listen. [00:37:05] Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. [00:37:08] Speaker B: I got a feeling. [00:37:13] Speaker A: And you have to be. And because you know, people sometimes think if I eat right, I drink right. I work out. Yeah but if you're listening to the wrong things or if you're actually hearing negative, you know, information. It's all for not right. [00:37:25] Speaker B: Is it something for these people? The first question is good, I'm with you 100 and actually you are in a good path. But I have a question for you that you do this absolutely dialogue which is your inner dialogue. Did you ever heard or you actually tell to yourself every single day what's going on in your noise in your brain. Because apart from the positive affirmation which absolutely useful and I do all the time what do you feel actually? What is your real mood which is your real estate in your heart, in your mind Happy. Because that was one is what attract your. What you call your misfortune. Because it's not what you say, what we are not what we. What we deliver, but it's what we feel like absolutely radio antenna which vibrate and connect with the same vibration that you're vibrating. So if you were vibrating, even if you hide it, if you did the. I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. I'm good, I'm good. I ate a fantastic food. I this good music. And I still thinking in myself very, very, very, very, very deeply. And my mother abandoned me that my father was my job is sucks which that one is. It's your vibrations. [00:38:42] Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. [00:38:44] Speaker B: Tune and that tune will attract the same tune. [00:38:48] Speaker A: So absolutely, absolutely so careful. [00:38:51] Speaker B: Because you have to work in your inner dialogue, in your inner thought, in your inner noise. And that is that you have to work. Work. Whatever what I'm saying. I just say that my father is a. I have to say I let you go. I let you go. I love you. I know. Okay. I want to tune with the best things. That's all. That you know what? I. If I don't have nobody, you know what I do? I listen Yoda. Yoda's hours. You know that. [00:39:16] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. Of course. [00:39:18] Speaker B: Anything can really give you. Yeah. Give you the beautiful. [00:39:24] Speaker B: I promise you. You. So I had a Yoda when I was younger, so it's okay. [00:39:29] Speaker A: Whatever the source is, it doesn't matter. [00:39:31] Speaker B: I'm Buddhist, by the way. So I'm tuned. I tune myself on that. On the board, on, you know, on. On that. On the. On the chanting. I'm doing Buddhist. I'm doing my mantra. For me, the universe. The power in the universe is my. My God. You know what I mean? [00:39:44] Speaker A: Of course. [00:39:44] Speaker B: Me and the universe. I'm the same things. That was one on Episode. I'm a Star wars fan. Of course. [00:39:48] Speaker A: I am, too. I am too. [00:39:49] Speaker B: So I'm one with the first in the forces with me. I'm one with the first forces, the forces with me, and one with the force, the forces with me. That was a powerful mantra, which, I mean, it will come from a movie now. Come from a great mind. [00:40:01] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:40:02] Speaker B: That. Give us that movie. You know what. How now the songs, the movie that are the movie, the songs, the music that you have to connect it to, that is the message you have to connect it to. [00:40:12] Speaker A: Yes. [00:40:12] Speaker B: Because if you see Star Wars, I can promise you, you learn how to shift your energy in one second. You know, if you see Avatar, if you mean the message is so powerful, that's the kind of show that you have to connect it to. [00:40:25] Speaker A: Right. [00:40:26] Speaker B: Arrivals. You know, the movie Arrivals Interstellar. You know what I mean? [00:40:31] Speaker A: Stellar movie. Stellar movie. I remember when I saw that in imax. And then you saw that wave come up, and I'm like. I started looking up, like it was coming down on me. Right. Because you're just like, oh, my gosh. And even the music that played during Beautiful. [00:40:46] Speaker B: So you, you know. You know which are the music and the messages and. And the videos that they. [00:40:52] Speaker A: Yes. [00:40:52] Speaker B: Connect to. [00:40:53] Speaker A: Yes. [00:40:54] Speaker B: And you don't do that. You want to go in. In the distress or you're gonna go in the drama. You're gonna join the anger. I promise you, you are damaging your immune system. You. You'll damage yourself biologically and no idea what's going on. [00:41:09] Speaker A: And then you'll see. Then you'll find you'll surround yourself with damaged people. And that's not a slight to people who have issues, but what you'll find is you take that energy that you're receiving and. And you'll give it out and then you'll find it and then it ruins everything that you built and work. [00:41:25] Speaker B: I agree with you 100 you just said so. So people, if you want this one, even if you want to get a session with me, if you're happy that I'm happy to lead you in a better place, wonderful. You're gonna find me sooner. We will tell you where you're gonna find me. But I'm here for you. I'm here really for you. Because I didn't it for myself for my life and it worked out then I. I did for all the people that I met since I was a little girl. I worked out now thanks my choice and thanks my transformation. That's my job I can do for very spread out. It's a sort of blessing. You want it? I'm here for you. [00:42:00] Speaker A: I think that's beautiful. I've always been honored to have every single guest on my show but I to have you considering what you are globally and and hopefully here in the US soon is an absolute honor. So I always ask this of my guests not for the purp of you but for the purpose of listeners here. Where can people find Numa? [00:42:19] Speaker B: Yes, thank you. I mean find me that to just start. Sorry once again if I answer you but see it's all good your question but I always make it I one step back because before you ask me something important, you ask me which was my achievement for you, which is. Okay. It's a more important question that you did to me which I'm. I'm happy to answer to. [00:42:40] Speaker A: Okay. You said go ahead. [00:42:41] Speaker B: I want. I say that I want. I have to tell you something that is the truth. I want that America become my new family. [00:42:49] Speaker A: Beautiful, wonderful. [00:42:51] Speaker B: Deepen in my heart. [00:42:52] Speaker A: Wonderful. [00:42:53] Speaker B: I don't know. It's like. It's like the new call. I can tell you that just open up myself because I need to also get aware of myself on what I'm saying something that I. It's, you know, it's a. It's moving inside my heart for a very long time and now. Now is kind of become become aware about. I am my family which is my Europe where I come from. I just said that I love my country and I. I just believe in what is a connection brotherhood and. And shared. No, that's what I feel like. So when I say that America was going to become a new family it's not because I live in behind my. My old family but because I believe that I can join and enjoy also the steam Family family. Because it's time to make a. To make my own change and my own shift. [00:43:38] Speaker A: Beautiful. [00:43:38] Speaker B: The life is made of big steps, big shift. And in this moment of my life, I think that this is my new mission and I want to be part of American people which I find so close to me and I find so, so dear to me. So my. My dream and my hope. But now that we're working very hard in this last month is to. To bring my. The same work that I was doing Italy in America. Which means that I used to join a lot of TV show. I do the radio still. I do it in Italy and in Europe very much. And now I would like to be to join TV shows in Italy in America. Sorry. Because I want to contact and be in touch and with much more people possible. [00:44:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:21] Speaker B: Favorite music, their ideas, thought back their thought. They reached me on Instagram. I reached them back. You know what? I have a team. I have a beautiful huge team of people that working for me. But you know what? I never sleep because I. I don't, I don't like. I don't like them. Someone answer my some speaks on my name. Someone that leave an autograph of my name ever. I rather to do eat to. You know. But it's me. Nobody can do my place. I'm real right here. [00:44:55] Speaker A: That's wonderful. [00:44:56] Speaker B: So I want to do a show, sing talk. I want to join, I want to listen. I want to be part of your family. [00:45:03] Speaker A: Wonderful. [00:45:03] Speaker B: So this is what I aim it. You know what? I'm an actress too. And of course I will always see the. The movie industry in America with a lot of respect and a lot of, A lot of, you know, love and attraction. Of course, of course. And many people already told me, you know what you are, you're fantastic to be an actress here and you have the right role and by reacting know right message deliver now once again. So yes, you know what I'm ready to really jump to. [00:45:33] Speaker A: That's wonderful. [00:45:35] Speaker B: That's more on the 60 degrees because you. You are my new family. [00:45:40] Speaker A: That's an honor and a pleasure and I'm glad in somewhere in your universe you and I were meant to meet on this, on this show. So like I said, the energy you gave out is the same one you're receiving back. And all I can say is that for somebody as busy as you and somebody who has the accolades that they do to be able to be on the Tron podcast, the randomness of nothing. This is what the show is all about. To talk to fascinating people from walks of life that are making a positive impact. And this is. You know to have NUMA on here is an absolute honor and a pleasure. [00:46:09] Speaker B: So if people want to find me, you have just to do. You know, you have to type everywhere you go on the Internet because I'm pretty word spread out so you can find your work quite easily. And so you have to put NUMA N U M A NUMA and you can go on Spotify, you can go on YouTube, you can go on Instagram. [00:46:31] Speaker A: Beautiful. [00:46:32] Speaker B: You can go everywhere and yes of course, join me because I tell you what, I'm really honest. I like to be honest. Maybe you understand which kind of person I am. I am too committed to do my work, to be busy, to work actually than to bother with a number or with the algorithmic. [00:46:52] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:46:54] Speaker B: Do this thing well, you know. So what I'm saying to audience with my totally clarity and my total honest. Just join me. [00:47:01] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:47:03] Speaker B: Just be part of my. I mean. I mean on my life and my family. I want to be part of your life and family. [00:47:09] Speaker A: Right. [00:47:09] Speaker B: So let's do something because if now in this technology is the new world this new way to absolutely to make communication. We need a feedback. It's no matter algorithm. I don't have to earn on your. On your click. I need. I. I need that you join me so I can join you exactly people like us. Show yourself, make yourself shown. Make yourself visible to me. Text me, download me, comment me. Say your opinion. Be absolutely Spotify going on YouTube. Listen, comment, give me your idea, your opinion. Enjoy me me if makes you feel better but wonderful present in my life. So you can find me in all platforms. Numa Palmer and I suggest you a couple of songs. I suggest you one song called Never give up because Never give up honestly is one of the most incredible video I did with Luca Bitsy speak about our daily inner hero put Numa. I put Never give up and you're gonna see this amazing video clip. But trust me, you can. You can see the. You know, the sexy and happy beautiful. And for example, there's another song which I think is very powerful. It's called Stronger. [00:48:25] Speaker A: I did listen to that one. [00:48:26] Speaker B: I like that song which I did by the way. I produced it with an amazing guy called Julian Hinton which is a producer of. It was with Trevor on. He works with Ross Stewart. It works with Robbie William. Wow. [00:48:41] Speaker B: Once again not AI. You know what I mean, right? That guy official help me. They helped me to do that song together. We work together and so stronger you put Numa stronger. You see also the video clip. You know, if you dig in my, in my, in my songs and you listen the words and you listen the visual, I, I, I believe that you will never let me go anymore. Me too. Tweet you. [00:49:04] Speaker A: Thank you very much. You know, it's been an honor and a pleasure, and it's not often I get a chance to talk to an international pop star, but it's one of those things where you kind of have to do a double take when you Google somebody's name. And all these results are just long, one after the other after the other. So I want to take time out to personally thank you for this opportunity. I'm very much looking forward to following back up, and the universe could use a lot more Numa Palmers out there. Thank you for being. [00:49:28] Speaker B: Thank you very much. You've been so kind to me and I find me so welcome. So thank you very much. [00:49:32] Speaker A: Thank you so much. You have a blast. And you have a wonderful day on that side the earth. [00:49:36] Speaker B: Okay, I'm. I'm in Miami. [00:49:39] Speaker A: You're still in Miami, right? I thought. Didn't know you were still in Miami. I thought you. Full disclosure, I thought you were still in Italy. Hey, so have. Have a great time down in Florida. [00:49:51] Speaker B: I told you that. You got me. You got me. I, I'm. I'm basically leave most of the time in America. I had no. [00:49:57] Speaker A: I, I was listening the entire time. I thought you were still overseas. You're. That's awesome. [00:50:01] Speaker B: No, I'm Miami. And soon I would be Los Angeles, so. Guy, pay attention, agent, because I'm coming. [00:50:06] Speaker A: I know you are. I'm looking forward to you and I'm glad I got a chance to be a part of it. You take care. Okay. [00:50:10] Speaker B: Bye. Bye. Love you.