Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Ladies and gentlemen of the host of the Tron podcast, your host, Rashad Woods. Today I have a very special guest. Absolutely an honor and a pleasure to be able for this man to carve out time out of his very busy schedule because he doesn't have to do so. You've seen him before, you haven't seen me, but this is Mr. Gibson. Thank you so much for your time. So, first of all, you know, your accomplishments speak for your. For themselves. You have a very popular YouTube channel. You give all sorts of health, medical, skin advice. I'm going to leave everything else up to you because I'm just honored and humbled enough to have you on here.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: Okay, well, that's quite the intro. Thank you.
[00:00:35] Speaker A: So, you know, first of all, how did you get involved as being an aesthetician in your profession?
[00:00:40] Speaker B: Like a lot of things, I like a lot of things that happen for a lot of people. I had skin issues as a young person that didn't get cleared up the traditional way. So, long story short, when I got into my 20s and I was still having cystic acne and there was not anything I hadn't tried already medically, I found holistic answers right through diet and a change in the skincare products I was using, really understanding all of that. So that led me to, you know, be trained in it.
That's a long time ago.
[00:01:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:01:11] Speaker B: And over the years, just helping people.
I was in the corporate world for a long time, and I wrote a book in 2004 on my struggles with skin care and acne and how the Accutane and all the other stuff that's traditionally had failed me. And so it was really a book about how I conquered it. It wasn't really a how to conquer it, but for sure, for sure, it resonated with a whole lot of people. Wonderful. So, long story short, again, I got on television with it, and once I was on TV talking about it, it was about the same time the stuff with overuse of antibiotics became kind of in the mainstream media and MRSA and all that stuff.
[00:01:52] Speaker C: Right.
[00:01:53] Speaker B: So the timing was really right for what I was talking about. Gut health and probiotics and the stuff that's in skincare that's harmful and more holistic approaches. So I just took off.
And then, you know, for about 10 years, that was. I was hot and heavy with that, like, was on television. And then, you know, that was in my 40s then.
So now I'm 61.
In 2018, I decided I wanted to get back into being on camera, but I didn't necessarily want to do television.
[00:02:23] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:02:24] Speaker B: I started my YouTube channel, and it's sort of. It's just really grown a whole lot.
And on there, I talk about skincare products. I formulated three skincare lines.
[00:02:33] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:02:34] Speaker B: So actually, I have the background for the ingredients as well. So on that channel, I review products. Obviously, I saw that ingredients. I talk about diet more and more. I talk about diet and fitness and the role that they played because people see me and they're like, you don't look 60 anything.
[00:02:50] Speaker A: I was gonna avoid saying that because.
[00:02:52] Speaker B: Even in this bad lighting in my house right now, I was really bad lighting.
[00:02:56] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:02:57] Speaker B: You know, when I'm out and about, people are just shocked.
[00:03:00] Speaker A: You know, as many times as I saw that people say that to you, I wanted to avoid saying that. But I was waiting for, like, the catch. And then when I was reading about your bio, it's like 37 years. I'm like, 37 years of what? I'm like 37 years old.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: Just hit 38 years of doing this. And the funny thing is, there's an entire Reddit dedicated to me, my age in the conversation around am I lying or not? So there's a Reddit on it. And for. When I first started talking about how old I was, it wasn't a feature of the channel. I just got on the channel to talk about, you know, how to have a great skincare routine, how to reverse sun damage, all the typical things that you would.
You would hear from dermatology or a medical esthetician. And. And then one video, I talked about how old I was, and then it's kind of set off a firestorm. Like, I was 56, and I was talking about how to take care. Skincare for the neck. Was the video right?
[00:03:48] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:48] Speaker B: How to skincare for the neck. Because it gets left out of a lot of skincare routines. That was the premise of that video. And I mentioned how old I was in there and that I didn't have, like, turkey neck or that mottled skin. I still don't. Or the weird texture creepiness. I don't have any of that.
[00:04:02] Speaker C: Right.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: And they went wild.
[00:04:04] Speaker A: They're like, no way.
[00:04:05] Speaker B: On it. They're like, you're lying. People started. It was a Google search. I mean, it helped the channel out tremendously because all that controversy, you know, people want to see what was going on, and they're gonn to get on there and start watching the videos and.
[00:04:17] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness.
[00:04:18] Speaker B: Initially about the age, and then I want to do what this guy's Doing.
[00:04:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:22] Speaker B: So, yeah, it became a thing. It's still a thing anytime I still have detractors on there. I've. I've shown my passport on. You know, they were like, you need a birth certificate. I'm like, I'm not putting my birth certificate on the Internet.
[00:04:34] Speaker A: Absolutely not.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: I'm not putting my driver's license on the Internet. I'll show you my passport and I'll cover the number. You can see my picture along with date of birth.
[00:04:42] Speaker C: Right.
[00:04:43] Speaker B: You know, and so, you know, Wikipedia is after me to do a. A wiki, and we're going to do that.
[00:04:49] Speaker A: How does that work anyway, by the way? Like, what, did they contact you? Did somebody.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: Like, somebody wants to do one on you? They can do one on you without your permission. But a lot of times now, what they do for accuracy, someone that does those will contact you and say, hey, you know, you're a big enough name that. Okay, you really should have one of these, because then you can control that the information is legitimate because it has to be verified. Everything's verified on wiki, right?
[00:05:14] Speaker C: Okay, yes.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: So. Or they'll kick it off.
You have to have verification. And so, yeah, I.
[00:05:22] Speaker A: That's the next step of evolution.
[00:05:23] Speaker B: I'm going to do it. I don't really want to do it. Like, I. I just want to do my videos and help people, but, you know, it goes with the territory and it's awesome. But when I found out there was a Reddit, I found out because somebody commented on a video. I need that. What video was that? Where you show your. Your passport, your ID and your age. Because there's an entire Reddit about you.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: Not indicated just to you and your age.
[00:05:46] Speaker B: And there's another, Chris Gibson, that's a politician. There are two or three of us. Another one's an athlete and is an author. So I've sort of started shortening my moniker to Chris G. For that reason. We're making that transition more and more where it's just Chris G. So I get. I get the guy's not politics anymore, so that's kind of fallen off.
[00:06:05] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:06:06] Speaker B: I'm sure that he just loved during his heyday because he got a lot of media attention that I was coming up instead of him. Some acne guy keeps coming up, because that was when I had the book out. Yeah, book was out. And so here's this politician in New York that wants all this press, and people look him up and guess who they find? Me.
[00:06:23] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness.
[00:06:25] Speaker B: I'm talking about acne free in Three days, I'm sure TV shows everywhere, you know, I'm sure he was like, I can't change my name.
[00:06:31] Speaker C: Yeah, right, right, right.
[00:06:34] Speaker B: So, you know, it's been a thing.
[00:06:36] Speaker A: That's hilarious. You know, I, I guess that's fantastic.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: It is what it is.
[00:06:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:06:41] Speaker B: You know, I can't, it just, it's funny to me, you know, first of.
[00:06:46] Speaker A: All, you know, you know, kudos to you for how long you take care of yourself and more importantly, willing to share this information with other people. I thought what was very fascinating is skin care is so personal. And usually, you know, when people first start getting acne, they automatically think, I'm not clean enough. So what are some of the misconceptions.
[00:07:02] Speaker B: About like the biggest mistake?
[00:07:04] Speaker A: Oh my gosh, man. I mean, and we've all went through it, man. Like you, like you start abusing your skin and you'll take the harshest of products. So for people who do have struggle with skin issues or people who are trying to pass around family information, what's the best tools to really get a good baseline to have healthy skin?
[00:07:18] Speaker B: Well, if you're, if you have oily skin or acne prone skin, you certainly don't want to over dry it because it just makes your oil glands produce more oil. Okay. The issue, the issue where acne comes from is we all have this bacteria on our skin. Everyone has the bacteria that is the root cause of acne. The problem is that in some individuals their immune system is sensitive to it. So if you got a lot of oil, that's what that bacteria does. In fact, that's its job is to, to digest oil.
[00:07:45] Speaker C: Okay?
[00:07:46] Speaker B: That's what it does. So we're not an oil slick.
[00:07:48] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:07:49] Speaker B: You know, because if, just think about, if your skin is producing oil and sweat all the time, you'd be a mess for sure. So something has to be going to be some sort of process with that that keeps balance. And when the acne bacteria gets out of balance and turns on the immune system, especially if it's down in a pore and it gets trapped.
People with acne prone skin, I did can tell you our skin oil is very thick. It's very, it's not thin. So the premise of doing Accutane and how that worked was it shut down the oil glands and changed the lipid profile in the liver and made that oil that you did produce much thinner. Let's just put it that way. It's just, there's technical medical stuff we could talk about, but so that it didn't block as many pores and it was able to be washed away.
[00:08:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: So like you said, most products back then and today labeled for acne are very, very harsh and dry.
[00:08:37] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness.
[00:08:38] Speaker B: And if you do that, that's, you know, not to pick on any brands. There's a brand out there, we don't hear too much about them anymore. It could just be me that was sold on television that, you know, people, Celebrities got behind it. You'll know. People will know what I'm talking about.
[00:08:52] Speaker A: I have a feeling.
[00:08:53] Speaker B: Yeah. It starts with the P and ends with A. E. Yeah.
Anyway, so the problem was people would get those products and they would start using them and they would see a difference. But what they didn't know was that as their skin got drier, dried out, these little flakes stayed on the skin.
[00:09:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:12] Speaker B: You know, and blocked more pores. And then they would have what they call the honeymoon phase with these products, and then they would have worse breakouts.
[00:09:19] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: So I was talking about that. It was big. That was a big brand in 2000s, right?
[00:09:25] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:25] Speaker A: About 17, 18 years ago.
[00:09:27] Speaker B: You know, there's a difference between an occasional pimple and outright cystic acne.
[00:09:31] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: And so the problem I had with those products was they didn't differentiate a person with an occasional pimple. You can apply a spot treater the minute you start to feel the little tingle or pain in the nerve and get rid of it. People with cystic acne, it's much deeper, it's harder to reach. And so you do not want to trap any oil in the pores because that's what leads to the infection and then the, the immune response and then it can lead to scarring that you see on folks. So I have a few. Couple of those scars myself, so.
So yeah, so you don't want to over dry it. You want to minimize the bacteria. So salicylic acid face washes are really good. Gentle. They need to say gentle. If your skin at any time feels dry, squeaky clean, it's too clean. Really, by that means too dried out. You want your skin to feel hydrated when you're done. Not that squeaky. I, I used to do the same thing before I figured all this stuff out. So. And different, different products work on different skins differently.
[00:10:28] Speaker A: Oh, I. Yeah.
[00:10:29] Speaker B: So you have to try three. You have to try three or four face washes where you get one where your skin feels clean and calm and not dried out and tight, you know, stretchy tight, because it's going to. You're Going to produce way more oil. And that's what we don't want. Because oil comes. The oil gland's not on the outside of your skin. It's underneath the layer. So if you've got oil factory going on under, you know, dead dry skin, that's a recipe for a breakout.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: Well, the other thing that happens too, especially if you're African American. African American, such as myself, it's. It's hair bumps, the hair follicles.
It's such a brutal existence.
[00:11:01] Speaker B: We've been talking a lot about melanin skin on the channel brand I work with.
[00:11:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:11:06] Speaker B: Which I can mention. That was fine Slow melanin out of Atlanta. They're specifically formulated for folks of darker complexions because of that very problem.
[00:11:14] Speaker A: Oh my gosh.
[00:11:15] Speaker B: And some of the products can lighten the skin.
[00:11:18] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:11:19] Speaker B: So if you're using, using an acne product on just one part of your skin, like for razor rash, or you're going to have lighter skin than you have everywhere else. So we talk about natural ingredients which I love that their products are like that because they use turmeric, which is very, very calming, in of itself antioxidant. But it helps to blend out those darker areas. And they've got formulations specifically for ingrown hairs. So did I know that I get them too? You know, I have one right now. I'm fighting right here. It's one reason I keep facial hair because I learned the way my pores are very tiny and the hair follicles get easily caught under. So I can't clean shave. That was something I used to learn a long time ago. I could, I can't have. I had five o' clock shadow. In the 90s when it wasn't popular, my mom would go, why don't you shave? Because I'm going to get a breakout if I do that right. The hairs will get caught and it's not worth the trouble.
So I walked around now it's very popular to have.
[00:12:15] Speaker A: Oh, for sure.
[00:12:15] Speaker B: But I tell guys, if you, if you have ingrown hair issues, you know, don't shave or just clip. Leave, leave the hair outside the pore.
[00:12:25] Speaker C: Right.
[00:12:26] Speaker B: And you're less likely to have those.
[00:12:27] Speaker A: So it doesn't get trapped under the, under the thong.
[00:12:29] Speaker B: It doesn't get trapped under the skin.
[00:12:31] Speaker C: Right.
[00:12:31] Speaker B: You know, is it blade shaving for a lot of folks that have that issue is a problem. The blade goes across the hair. The hair is now cut at an angle so it's pointy. And all it has to do Is get caught under the edge of the pore and it'll curl under instead of coming out.
[00:12:44] Speaker A: I can't use a razor myself. I just, I just can't do it.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: I gave that up. I still don't.
[00:12:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I physically, when I go and.
[00:12:51] Speaker B: Get facials, if I go in and have a professional facial treatment, I have to shave.
But I still leave. I still leave.
I did a video on micro needling. The new machine, they have an RF micro needling. And I had to shave the first time I went in there. I shaved pretty close and I got a couple of those. Won't do that again. And they're like. Well, no, just, just leave stubble. Yeah, so. So stubble is where I'm at. That's the shortest it ever is.
[00:13:16] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: It's like a one. It's like a one.
You know, the razor set at one and that's it. Never, never, never blade. I don't use razor blades.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: Well, the crazy part is, is that it feels great the first day you did it. Because you have like that boot that exfoliates your skin.
[00:13:31] Speaker B: Yeah. It takes all the dead skin. You know, it does that. There's microblading, which a lot of people use to get, which is fine on the areas where you don't have that thick hair.
[00:13:39] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: Like that's a, that is a treatment, non invasive treatment that removes dead skin. It's a blade. You just, you, if you go in and have it done, it's the same thing. They take the blade just across the top of the skin and it gets that outer skin layer off.
[00:13:53] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:13:54] Speaker B: It's like a skin peel really. But, but yeah, same thing. If you use that and you. To shave the hair off, you're shaving the hair off at an angle.
[00:14:02] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:14:02] Speaker B: Like it cuts that hair. Just think of it as like a needle right now. That's easier to get caught under.
[00:14:08] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:14:09] Speaker B: That's what razor rash is too. You know, you take that top part of the, you know, the skin around hair follicles on the face is often tight and raised.
[00:14:18] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:18] Speaker B: So when you go across it like that, you're cutting the, the very top of the skin layer off. And that's which is why you can get an instant rash. That's what that is.
[00:14:26] Speaker A: I did not know that.
[00:14:27] Speaker B: So, you know, shaving is a, is a human invention. Grooming is great. I promote it. You know, good grooming is an. Is, is what you should do. But sometimes we take it too far.
[00:14:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:39] Speaker A: And there's a million. There's so many products out there. That kind of sell that they have the, the secret sauce. And sometimes they're not from qualified people.
[00:14:45] Speaker B: And do not put a depository on your face. The villager. Do not put Nair or something to do. Don't do that.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: You know, I, I.
[00:14:52] Speaker B: People do that, you know, and don't do it.
[00:14:55] Speaker A: It's only meant for legs.
[00:14:56] Speaker C: Right.
[00:14:56] Speaker A: So, like, from my understanding, well, there.
[00:14:58] Speaker B: Now they have formulations for everything, but to keep it light and not gross. I had a friend who used it, you know where. Oh.
And it was designed for that, Bought a product that's for that. And let's just say he shed skin for about two weeks. Oh, he had a reaction to that. So you can imagine how painful that was.
[00:15:20] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh.
[00:15:21] Speaker B: So I just tell people, I, I don't recommend those things, you know, if you use them, like, on your, on your bum, guys, and you don't get breakouts from it, it's fine. I, you know, but at some point, I'm a holistic esthetician.
[00:15:36] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:15:36] Speaker B: First, you know, test that out on a really small area.
[00:15:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: And make sure you're not gonna have a reaction to it.
[00:15:42] Speaker A: I think sometimes we also expect to, you know, we open up the bottle, we don't look at the side effects, and we just apply it to the.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: That stuff. That stuff can be really like, he had a bad reaction. He had to go to the doctor for it. That's so, so. And I'm like, well, you didn't patch test it. He's like, well, how do you patch test that? The same way you do anything. Right here. Right here. And if that skin can't take it, your sensitive area sure can't.
[00:16:06] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: So.
So yeah.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: That's a harsh lesson in life. Oh, my God. Yeah.
[00:16:11] Speaker B: We let society dictate a lot of things sometimes that are not exactly good for us. So just, you know, the trends.
[00:16:17] Speaker A: Oh, absolutely. And then the Internet doesn't help either.
[00:16:20] Speaker C: Right.
[00:16:20] Speaker A: Because now you have everybody who's swarp, and now this is for you. There's one guy in particular, and, like, he's, like, really, like, top line in shape, and he does all, like. He's a muscular African American gentleman. He's, like, on Instagram a lot, and he talks about how applies. Like, he puts a banana peel on his face or something like that. I don't know if you've seen that guy before.
[00:16:38] Speaker B: Not yet.
[00:16:39] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, I, I don't know his name. And he's. I mean, he's. The guy looks like. He looks like An Adonis, so I didn't know. I just threw that one out there. So.
[00:16:47] Speaker B: Well, banana. You know, banana enzymes. I did a whole series of DIY masks. Excuse me, that were made out of different things, like avocado, banana. Those things are not good. Lemon is not good for your skin.
Lemon. None of, none of that.
But, you know, there is some benefit to banana. There's an enzyme in banana that helps loosen dead skin cells without irritation. Again, though, you need to test that.
[00:17:13] Speaker C: Right?
[00:17:13] Speaker B: Anything. Because people have food allergies too.
[00:17:15] Speaker A: True, true, Very true.
[00:17:16] Speaker B: You know, like you have allergies to, like, strawberries, which is kind of common, and you make a strawberry mask or buy anything that strawberry.
[00:17:24] Speaker C: You're done.
[00:17:26] Speaker B: Oil is in. You're going to have issues. So. Yeah.
[00:17:28] Speaker A: So the best practices for diet as far as getting the healthiest skin possible, because again, you look fantastic at 61.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: The less sugar, the better.
[00:17:36] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:17:36] Speaker B: Right off the bat, the less processed foods, the better.
[00:17:39] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:17:40] Speaker B: The less seed oils, the better.
[00:17:42] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:43] Speaker B: So for instance, I. I've done some cooking videos that did really well. I should probably do more where I use avocado oil. Olive oil. Like, I take a tablespoon of olive oil at least once a day.
[00:17:53] Speaker C: Oh, wow.
[00:17:54] Speaker B: With a dash of salt. And it's good. Olive oil. It's not. You got to watch it because there's a lot of oils that are treated on the market. You want pure, cold pressed, not blended with anything else oil.
[00:18:05] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:18:06] Speaker B: And it needs to be fresh, so you got to pay attention to the expired dates on olive oil. Although when oils expire, usually you can taste it.
They don't taste as good anymore.
[00:18:16] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:18:17] Speaker B: But yeah, so those are also good oils for the skin. I've. I've done a lot of videos on skin oils that have just done really well. Frankincense, myrrh, black seed oil. What else? Castor oil. Big one Care products. Yeah, castor oil. Not as a laxative anymore.
[00:18:34] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: My parents days, my mother used to tell horror stories. Sorry, horror stories about. About castor oil being. Being given to you for. As a laxative. Oh, my God, how disgusting it was. I personally never tasted it. But as for a skin Amalia, it's really, really good.
[00:18:53] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:18:54] Speaker A: So does it even boil down to, you know, does your approach even tell people, like, what's the best shampoos? And I only ask that because it has a huge effect on your skin.
[00:19:02] Speaker B: It depends on. Yeah, I shampoo when I talk about it.
I haven't done one of those in a while.
It really has to do with your scalp and how healthy it is. Like, if you're having breakouts, folliculitis, those type of things, then a. A shampoo like Nazoral that has ketoconazole, and it's going to be helpful. Tea tree oil is going to be helpful. Anything that beats down that fungus and bacteria that causes that.
[00:19:29] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: Which is contagious, by the way. A lot of people come to me with the. They've never had a rash on their face or on their scalp before. And then once you go to a barber, don't you, or you go to a salon, y. You got that from someone else for sure. They used a utensil, a comb, scissor, something scraped your skin that had that bacteria on it. Now we got to figure out how to get rid of it.
[00:19:50] Speaker A: It's crazy because the bar really mad.
[00:19:53] Speaker B: They're like, well, you know, they put it in that stuff. You know, personally, it should probably go through the same thing that dishware in a restaurant goes through.
[00:20:01] Speaker C: Right, Right.
[00:20:02] Speaker B: Like it should be a cabinet it goes in where the temperature is so hot it kills it. But they put it in that liquid, then if they forget to change out that. That liquid, the alcohol liquid, then it loses its ability to kill that bacteria.
[00:20:15] Speaker C: Right.
[00:20:15] Speaker B: Or if they set a device, if they sit something down and forget to put it in there. One after they're cutting one person after the other.
[00:20:20] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:20:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:22] Speaker B: All it takes is one little nick and that bacteria gets going. So. And then there's like, some people have dry scalp and dandruff issues. You want something with a nourishing oil. Argan oil is really, really good.
[00:20:33] Speaker C: Right.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: Products with castor oil, again, really, really good for that.
Strengthen the hair follicle, nourish the scalp, that type of thing.
[00:20:41] Speaker C: Right.
[00:20:41] Speaker B: So, yeah, so there's a lot of. A lot of approaches and. And no one thing works for everybody, which I try to emphasize a lot of times on the channel.
[00:20:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:50] Speaker B: And then you have to give something basically 90 days to decide.
[00:20:53] Speaker A: 90 days, that's a lifetime for skin.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: Care because, man, your new skin takes about that long to get to the surface. So anything you're doing today to help your skin underneath isn't going to really show up for about three months.
So all those promises, I mean, that doesn't mean. That doesn't mean if you have dry skin and you use a hydrate, you use a ceramide cream, you're not going to see some instant improvement. You will. Skin tightener, instant improvements. You will. But when you're talking about changing the textures. And you either have to do something invasive like a skin peel to get all that old skin off where the new skin is showing, or you have to wait for that new skin to show itself over time.
[00:21:31] Speaker A: Got it.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: So I have people, whenever they start something that take a selfie first, take one right when you start, take one at 30 days, 60 days. Because a lot of times we don't see the pro. It's a very slow process.
[00:21:44] Speaker C: Right.
[00:21:45] Speaker B: You know, red light therapies, all these therapies work. But you have to be very consistent, and you have to give it time to the road for the results to become.
[00:21:52] Speaker A: I saw you were a big advocate of that too, as well.
[00:21:55] Speaker B: I have red therapy everywhere. I have a bag, a body bag. I go, I get in there. Like, if they find a corpse in there, just take the bag and all. Let's just take the whole thing, you know?
Or it may make me live forever. I'm not sure.
But I have. I have those. I have red light therapy masks. I have a red light therapy tool for hair growth. Scalp. They've. If it's red light therapy, someone has sent me something. Okay, I have it all. But I've been very consistent with it.
[00:22:26] Speaker A: What are the benefits of that for people who aren't familiar with that? I've seen it.
[00:22:29] Speaker B: You know, different wavelengths of light activate different things in the skin. There's intense types of light. People probably heard of that, that help reduce fat. That's really rf. It's really not light. It's radio frequency that does that. Heats up the fat cell. It's a whole thing behind that. But red light therapy, basically, the wavelengths of light for skin rejuvenation turn on the little mitochondria in the cells. So it reactivates things like hair follicles. This is at the cellular level.
[00:22:58] Speaker C: Oh, wow.
[00:22:59] Speaker B: Which is why you got to give it time to see. You're not going to wear the mask once and be 10 years younger than when you take it off.
[00:23:04] Speaker A: Got it.
[00:23:05] Speaker B: But over time, it will reduce age spots. It will help your melanin production be more even. It will fine lines and wrinkles. Will pump out a lot more. It helps. The biggest benefit is that it encourages collagen production naturally in the deeper layers of your skin, which helps pump everything back out. Got it tightened. Everything back up. And it's well tolerated by almost. That therapy has been around a long time. It was in sports medicine. You know, you carry these guys off the field.
[00:23:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:23:32] Speaker B: Like a pretzel. And they're back playing 30 days later. Well, they were using other therapies besides, you know, they're using heat therapy, art, radio frequency therapy, cold plunge therapy, red light therapy. All these have been in the sports medicine world for many years. It just made it an into the mainstream and into skin care. Those benefits made it in later, but yeah, that's how they sped the healing of those folks.
[00:23:56] Speaker A: I do have a quick question. That's, that's amazing information because, you know, I hear about it and then you kind of were, you know, I'm on the fence of if this is effective or not because you hear so much information out there and it's sometimes tough to discern.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: And those devices are not cheap. No, they're expensive.
[00:24:10] Speaker A: They are very expensive.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: They are very expensive, but they work. So that's amazing.
[00:24:15] Speaker A: Well, how do you feel about when people try to. Because I want to be conscious of your time for, for weight loss when it does to their skin. When people are taking Ozempic in these fat.
[00:24:23] Speaker B: Oh, we've seen what happens.
[00:24:24] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:24:26] Speaker B: The drug isn't doing it. It's the quick fat loss that's doing that. We see that in athletes.
[00:24:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:33] Speaker B: We see that in people who've lost, who've been sick and lost weight from cancer or some other metabolic issue. When you take shortcuts, you get shortcut. You get shortcut consequences for sure.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: For sure.
[00:24:45] Speaker B: So, you know, the people you see doing it that haven't had that have used it as a part of a strategy, they'll be on it for maybe a month.
[00:24:54] Speaker A: Got it.
[00:24:54] Speaker B: Or, you know, they'll use, they'll work with their doctor to change their diet and their activity plan and they'll use that as. Because what happens in the traditional weight loss senses is you got to fight your brain too.
[00:25:07] Speaker A: Oh my gosh.
[00:25:07] Speaker B: So you got to stay motivated. You have to be very consistent. It's the reason, you know, I'm still in great shape as I'm very consistent.
[00:25:15] Speaker A: Wonderful.
[00:25:15] Speaker B: The only thing I do different these days is sometimes I'll take a couple weeks off and not do any weightlifting just to make sure that everything is recovered. Right before I get back into it again.
[00:25:25] Speaker C: Right.
[00:25:25] Speaker B: But when you lose that fat that quickly, your body can't keep up. You lose muscle tone with it and then you get that. That pulled in sunken.
[00:25:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:25:36] Speaker B: And loose skin.
[00:25:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:25:37] Speaker B: You know. And can you get cosmetic surgery to correct that? You can. Can you get fillers to correct that? You can, but any type of change on a human body that's quickly induced like that Physically quickly induced causes damage.
[00:25:50] Speaker A: Oh, for sure. I can imagine.
[00:25:52] Speaker B: You know, it's going to cause some damage and your body's going to have to recover. It's just like chemotherapy is the same thing. It creates a lot of damage. It may cure your cancer.
[00:25:59] Speaker C: Right.
[00:26:00] Speaker B: Especially now with all the new developments they have on how to attack these diseases from different ways.
[00:26:06] Speaker C: Right.
[00:26:07] Speaker B: But that's the same thing you see in folks that have been through those therapies. I mean, I remember my mom had diverticulitis.
[00:26:13] Speaker A: Oh my goodness. Sorry about that.
[00:26:14] Speaker B: And had to have part of her. Her colon removed. Fortunately, she didn't have to have a bag, but she had part of her that when she was going through that, she couldn't eat anything.
[00:26:23] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:24] Speaker B: She lost a lot of weight. She looked terrible. She looked worse than she did when it was, when her time to go came.
[00:26:31] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness, that sucks.
[00:26:32] Speaker B: She, she, she had to recover from that and had to go get magnesium.
[00:26:36] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: Infusions. It was, it was because they had to do. That was a quick.
[00:26:42] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:43] Speaker A: Recovery.
[00:26:44] Speaker B: But it was very traumatic for the body.
[00:26:45] Speaker A: Of course it is. Absolutely.
[00:26:47] Speaker B: That's a open heart surgery. If you've been around people that have that, it's very traumatic. They don't look good at all at first, but, you know, when they recover, they look fine and usually better because their circulation has been restored.
[00:26:59] Speaker C: Correct.
[00:26:59] Speaker B: But the same thing. Anything you do quickly is going to have some sort of downtime.
[00:27:05] Speaker A: And now. And now it's become more widespread and we see the photos online and you're just like, wow, that happened to this.
[00:27:10] Speaker B: You may be skinny, but you look terrible.
[00:27:12] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. You know, and it's. I don't judge. Right. But it definitely.
[00:27:16] Speaker B: But in a strategy, because people see the needle move as a part of an overall strategy of diet and fitness, you're gonna be more apt to stick to your changes.
[00:27:26] Speaker C: Right.
[00:27:27] Speaker B: Because you see the problem with, the problem with weight loss. It's slow.
[00:27:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:32] Speaker B: Unless you do fasting.
[00:27:33] Speaker A: Definitely.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: You know, intermittent fasting and fasting. The three day fasting stuff really does work wonders. But bodies are used to that. I mean, really, as a species, we didn't eat every day. We sure didn't eat three meals a day. So your body knows how to. Yeah. So we have all these cortisol and insulin issues these days because we're constantly putting stuff in our mouth.
[00:27:54] Speaker A: We didn't eat three days times a day.
[00:27:56] Speaker B: No, no. Ancestors didn't do that. You had to catch and kill it.
[00:27:59] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:28:00] Speaker B: Grow it.
[00:28:00] Speaker A: That's True.
[00:28:01] Speaker B: Because you ate your neighbor. There were a few of those. There were a few of those. There was a tribe that ate babies. It was awful.
I just read that story and it's like going, ew, yeah.
[00:28:11] Speaker A: Oh, I don't even want to think about that.
[00:28:13] Speaker B: So they raised, they had children that they raised for food too.
[00:28:16] Speaker A: Oh my God.
[00:28:17] Speaker B: I mean, so, you know, now we have it. It's available. I mean, you go back and look at pictures of people in the 70s.
I love looking at those. Everybody looks good.
[00:28:27] Speaker C: Right?
[00:28:27] Speaker A: Then even you look at old bodybuilder pictures.
[00:28:29] Speaker C: Right?
[00:28:30] Speaker A: Like the old bodybuilder pictures.
[00:28:31] Speaker B: So body fat percentages, much less. So sugar as we. As to circle back around sugar.
You know, if you're going to eat fats, eat the real thing. Like you're gonna have butter. Eat butter.
[00:28:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:28:43] Speaker B: You're gonna have cheese. Eat cheese.
[00:28:45] Speaker C: That's.
[00:28:45] Speaker B: I'm sticking to it. Don't eat the fake stuff. I deal with a lot of people that have adult onset acne in the minute they take out altered dairy, like 2% this and 1% that and it goes away, especially for women.
[00:28:58] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:28:59] Speaker B: And women need the calcium. So eat the real stuff. Just don't eat a whole bucket of it.
[00:29:04] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:29:05] Speaker B: Don't eat a stick of butter a day. It's a lot of. It's common sense. But at the other side, we're sold. We're so brainwashed and sold that, you know, to be healthy you gotta do eat this weird stuff. If it's weird stuff, I don't eat it. How about that?
[00:29:19] Speaker A: Well, you're living, you're living testament and proof of it and you know, and the fact that you're willing to share it with the rest of the world and your. All this information. Information. Writing books, having a channel and, and being on TV and giving all this advice and looking at the age you are, you know, and that's not a dis. Man. Like I said, I want to look like you in 20 years. And it's amazing. And I know I've only scratched the surface of all your accomplishments and everything as well too.
[00:29:40] Speaker B: And it's, it's really just, it's just really. It's just been put in practice. The biggest difference for me is I learned early.
[00:29:47] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:29:47] Speaker B: And I stuck with it. I learned early and stuck with it. Use sunscreen.
Then I had my fair amount of time in the sun. But the diet, people don't realize that your diet also impacts sun damage and how much you get. So there are like, if you eat a lot of vegetables, leafy greens. You get a lot of beta carotene in your diet. There are certain enzymes and peptides, amino acids that actually help your skin protect itself. Even when your sunscreen is. That's why you can see some people don't burn and then there's genetic, you know, genetics. But everybody don't care how dark your skin is or how light your skin is. Everybody is susceptible to a sunburn if you're out in it.
[00:30:26] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:30:26] Speaker B: So you got to protect your skin. Everybody can get a sunburn.
[00:30:29] Speaker A: It was really weird the first time I put on sunscreen. You know, I mean, I don't recall doing it that much of a kid, but I didn't really go to the beach a lot. You know, now getting accustomed to it and having kids, like I wouldn't even think twice about not doing it. But as a kid I never applied sunscreen because sometimes you were like, why would I have to wear sunscreen? So to speak. It definitely, you know, but I think that this is, what you do is so personal for people and your channel is growing and you have such really great shorts. You have such really great content. What does the future hold for Chris Gibson and what you continue to keep doing?
[00:30:59] Speaker B: Well, yeah, we have a small skincare line that we've been messing with for like five years.
[00:31:04] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:31:05] Speaker B: There's like six products that are acne based and anti aging. Hope to do more. That is work. Been working on that. Slowly. It's not at retail. We do have a website where people purchase it.
[00:31:16] Speaker C: Right.
[00:31:16] Speaker B: Going to be coming out with a new line of supplements. Wonderful collagen peptides. Things that I take and talk about a lot of vitamin D3 and K2. Very important combination for everybody. It helps your body use calcium efficiently.
[00:31:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:31:31] Speaker B: How it keeps it out of your brain and out of your blood vessels and in your bones and everywhere else you need it.
[00:31:39] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:31:40] Speaker B: So very important. I take that. So it's going to be based on what I do. It's sort of like the Brian Johnson way. It's like all of his stuff. That's the billionaire anti ager guy.
[00:31:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:31:51] Speaker B: That took blood from his own son. But you know, beyond some of that stuff that he does, the things that he talks about in the diet that, that give him the really healthy biomarkers. I have the same kind of thing.
Really are those, those basics. So I wanna, I want a simple supplement line. Right.
Those things. You know, I don't think I'll ever do like a weight loss thing or any of that. But you know, vitamin D3 and K2 from a really good source. Collagen peptides from a good source. Turmeric, nice things like that, that in your diet really can play a role as supplementation.
[00:32:25] Speaker A: Wonderful.
[00:32:26] Speaker B: So we're working on that. It's already got a name, it's already registered, called Replenish Mode.
[00:32:30] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:32:31] Speaker B: So I'm really excited about that. I love the name.
So really excited about all of that. Lots of good stuff. More on the channel. Trying to get to a million subscribers.
[00:32:41] Speaker A: You're well on your way.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Five. I think we're at five.
[00:32:44] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:32:46] Speaker A: Awesome, awesome.
[00:32:47] Speaker B: You know, online communities, about 50, 000. I do have one of those.
And then I have Instagram between the two, I think that's about a hundred thousand, so. And I don't really do much. We just put the shorts up on there. I'm trying to put more personal stuff into things where people see what I do.
[00:33:05] Speaker C: Right.
[00:33:06] Speaker B: So that's going to happen. It's going to get. There will be some more vlogging type videos.
[00:33:10] Speaker C: Right.
[00:33:12] Speaker B: Where I'm, you know, doing my thing.
[00:33:14] Speaker A: Well, I, I think also too, just because, you know, skin care and wellness is so personal and it's coming from somebody who's an expert. It's not, you know, with all respect to it, some Instagram influencer in their 20s and some of those are very successful. But it's coming from somebody who knows the science of things, who's experienced it.
[00:33:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know that I'm, you know, a lot of those guys are very entertaining. I watch a lot of that.
You know, if someone were to ask me, who do I look up to, We've got to be most like, I. I like Dr. Mike.
[00:33:41] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:33:42] Speaker B: Because it's medical.
[00:33:43] Speaker C: Right.
[00:33:44] Speaker B: But he's fun to watch.
[00:33:45] Speaker C: Right?
[00:33:45] Speaker B: Right. So, you know, he's obviously degreed and got a lot of experience. And, and he. He talks about the BS out there too, for sure. But he also talks about holistic stuff. So I swear he's. I sort of like how he does with medical. I like doing with skin care and the holistic approaches because some of them work very, very well, you know, and some of them do not.
Some of them are like, don't put toothpaste on your face. Don't put lemon juice on your scene.
[00:34:12] Speaker A: Videos where people talk about that. And there's one.
[00:34:14] Speaker B: Don't do that.
[00:34:16] Speaker A: And there's one doctor, and just real briefly that I love the one even though they suffered injuries, who discusses sports injuries that takes place. And he actually goes to the detail of the sports injuries athletes suffer from when it happens. I forgot the gentleman's name, but his YouTube channel is very fascinating because he breaks down, like the knee injury, the hip injury, the back injury.
[00:34:34] Speaker B: How. What. How the body has to. How much work it has to do to repair it.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: Yes, yes.
[00:34:38] Speaker B: And you'll be like, yeah, why? A knee takes, like, a broken leg will be done in six months, and a knee might take a year and a half.
[00:34:44] Speaker A: Right.
[00:34:45] Speaker B: But to me, the fascinating part is that the body can heal itself. That's a fascinating.
[00:34:49] Speaker A: It's amazing what it does. It's. It absolutely is.
[00:34:52] Speaker B: So it really is very resilient. Even skin. I mean, people come to me with a lot of sun damage, especially people in their 50s, 40s, 50s, 60s, thinning, skin issues, sun damage that time. So we really work hard to make sure that videos go out every month on how to address those things.
[00:35:08] Speaker A: Wonderful.
[00:35:09] Speaker B: A little bit repetitive, but new people all the time.
[00:35:11] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:35:13] Speaker B: They haven't seen it, so it's important for that.
[00:35:16] Speaker A: You know, I love the work that you do. I'm so honored that you were willing to carve out time out of your very busy schedule. I hope that my skin is presentable for this episode, because I made sure. Hey, man. You know. You know, But I always make a point of emphasis, I think, beyond whether or not somebody wants to look good or bad. You know, people can't forget about being healthy when it comes to their skin and their wellness.
[00:35:36] Speaker C: Right. Yeah.
[00:35:37] Speaker A: Inside out, you know, so, Chris Gibson, you know, you don't have to come on the Tron podcast, and I really appreciate your presence and time, and I'm looking forward to seeing your continued success. And thank you very much for. I'm honored and privilege to pick your brain for a few.
[00:35:50] Speaker B: Well, thank you. I enjoyed it.
[00:35:52] Speaker A: Appreciate you, brother. Talk to you soon.
