Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back, listeners of the Tron podcast, the Randomness of Nothing. This is your host, Rashad Woods. Today I have a very special guest halfway across the world, successful entrepreneur, businessman, podcaster, Mr. Roy Colin. Thank you very much for your time, sir.
[00:00:13] Speaker B: Thank you very much for having me and looking forward to the conversation.
[00:00:15] Speaker A: It's a blast. You know, your history is very multi layered and very, very rich with a lot of different successes to it. And it started out as a very young age. You know, you're delivering newspapers, washing cars, and you started your businesses very early. So tell me about your entrepreneurial journey for the show, please.
[00:00:29] Speaker B: I mean, as you said. Yeah, it's like nine. I actually started Washington. I was doing gardening work and I realized, you know, somebody was like, we went around saying, bob, a job which is kind of like scouts, but we weren't in the scope. And I remember somebody paid us like 25 cent for doing gardening work for a few hours and they give us a chocolate bar. And I was like, I don't like this. And that kind of continued even to.
[00:00:51] Speaker A: This day for gardening.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: So you learn at an early age what you like and what you don't. At 11, done a newspaper round. Yeah, yeah, just started. I mean, I done that up to college. Enjoy that. With the money from 14, bought a lawnmower, went around, gone cutting grass and everything. And then right around 18, I was doing motorbikes. I was into motorbikes and I got a few motorbikes bought and sold. And just on kind of learning journey as well for the entrepreneur because I was still kind of doing the gardening work because I was making good money. You know, you just right as you go. So I decided we could cut hedgings and I mean, we must have looked like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. We were driving along with a motorbike with a petrol. Petrol hedge cutters, I mean, and we decided we knew what we were doing and we went around and we asked somebody. I remember even the price, we said 30 pound. We cut our hedge.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:39] Speaker B: And it ended up being like a zigzag. And she threatened to call the police.
That was the end of my hedge cutting career. That was another lesson I went to. I started working in a bar community, clearing the glasses and emptying the kegs and things like that. But the money, it was Irish money at the time, before we switched over to the euro. But it was a pound an hour. And okay, I was like, this is. You're working late and everything. And I was like, this is really not good, like. And most of the people working there, they were just robbing drinks. And that's not my style. I'm not a thief. So, you know, I think that's why they didn't. I mean, they were walking me in the bar. They might be getting four bucks or something like that. But it was still, it was poor money. I asked for 150, he didn't give it to me. So I left and I, I learned I worked as well. It's like, I'm not going to work for such crappy money. And then I studied construction, economics and management. And when I got out of college, that was in 93, I did a diploma. I thought I'd walk into a job and that was. There was a kind of lull period at that time. I remember we call them their John letters, where you're writing to try to get a job. Piles, piles of tanks, but no tanks. And I remember I had an interview for Logitech and they said, you're overqualified. And I was like, I just want a job. But eventually I done another course, construction site supervision. And it was a government organization and they were just doing all foxers, which is like nixers, but for themselves. It was so corrupt. I mean like all government institutes. So they were getting us to price jobs, do all different stuff. They were obviously making money, we weren't. And they had a computer. And I asked Jermaine, I said, will you get a CAD book? AutoCAD? And it was like AutoCAD 12 at the time. And I read it from COVID to cover. Then they gave us work experience. I started working for the city doing a road design. And the strange thing is there was architects working for, for this company and CAD was coming in and they hadn't a clue. Whereas I knew all the tips and tricks. So they were coming right?
[00:03:30] Speaker A: Right.
[00:03:31] Speaker B: The money wasn't great. It was like 100 bucks a week. And in the end I ended up working for a mechanical contractor away from my city.
But I last with them maybe eight and a half years. I kind of worked my way up to contracts manager. I was running multi million pound jobs, really enjoyed it, hired a lot of people and then went for another company as a regional manager for three and a half years. And during the time of the first company I set up a business, another business doing Internet web design with a guy. And it was working okay. Then I kind of like everybody started doing it and the prices dropped. So I just kind of walked away from that one as well. But always entrepreneurial, started getting into property. I had A few properties at three properties in Ireland. And then I started dating a Polish girl. When I went over, I said, property is cheap here, start to get in a few. And then I said I saw an opportunity because it was a time, I think it was around 2004, everybody was kind of buying if you'd a policy or buying something. And I set up a company for basically was for Irish investors to buy stuff in Poland. But as it turned out, I was getting English and American and I built. I eventually moved. Our relationship ended, so I had to move where I would have lost everything, but I was building apartments, I was building houses, I was managing.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: I heard about properties.
[00:04:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I, you know, I built a lot there. And obviously, yeah, then I kind of. Not everything works out in life.
[00:04:43] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I think the world came to a screeching halt in 2008 with factors beyond everybody's control when that in fact took place. You know, and, you know, I, I thought, and I don't want to over talk your story, but when, you know, you go from Ireland to Poland to managing properties, I mean, you always, for lack of a better term, were a hustler. So it always just sort of navigated different spaces. And even if things didn't work out like, you know, your Texas Chainsaw Massacre story. Right. Ultimately you pivoted really quickly. So what's the benefit of pivoting really quickly from things don't work and not really like mulling on failures?
[00:05:15] Speaker B: Like, I think it's. I always say, when you're driving, don't look in the rear view mirror because you're not going in that direction because.
[00:05:20] Speaker A: Right, right.
[00:05:21] Speaker B: You know, and the thing is, when you're mulling, you're, you're not in creative mode and it's hard. I mean, it's not. Oh, it didn't hurt me. I mean, I got wiped out. Like, I got seriously wiped out. I. And it took a while. I was doing well, but others kind of took me down with them. But the thing is, it was always one investor had said to me, he said, money solves all problems. And it's, it's a good thought process because you can be trying to squeeze the pennies and try to do everything in, but if you start creating something that gives you lots of money, it solves all the things that you're trying to squeeze the pennies on.
[00:05:51] Speaker A: Right, right, right.
[00:05:52] Speaker B: And the mindset is like, everything is.
[00:05:54] Speaker A: A people business for sure.
[00:05:56] Speaker B: And sometimes people think, oh, I'm an accountant, I'm a solicitor, I'm this, I'M that a lot of people hate what they're doing, but they think because that's all they've done, they can't change. And no matter what business you've done, if you're able to get on with people, if you're able to negotiate, that carries across to any business you do.
[00:06:13] Speaker A: Right.
[00:06:13] Speaker B: So that way you're not afraid to try out and you can bring people in to have the skill set, or you can know, listen to podcasts, read books.
[00:06:20] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:06:21] Speaker B: You can learn about things fast if you put the energy into it.
[00:06:26] Speaker A: Well, it's funny you say that, right? Because the amount of people that I've gotten a chance to talk to on this show have varying different backgrounds, skill sets and needs. But the story and the linear, you know, there's a path that these people have all done irregardless of what field of work they went in. And if you're a. If you're a good listener, if you're knowledgeable, if you're willing to take knowledge, ask questions and learn, you can kind of watch a documentary of just about anything if you're willing to listen to it. Right. And so one of the reasons I started the show was to talk to people like yourself. You know, I can't speak on certain topics in detailed expertise, but to get to your point, if you're willing to listen and you study it, that's when you start filling in those gaps of what you didn't know. Right. And you have to put in the effort. Learning is an effort. Listening is an effort. Right. Talking is easy. Right. Anybody can ramble on for days and hours on end, but it takes a true skill set to actually learn and listen. So how did you end up navigating to where now you're a podcast host and you're one of the top podcasters in the world with all the skills that you've gotten over your life.
[00:07:27] Speaker B: So it kind of came to where I got wiped out with this. It took a bit while to go. So I basically, I was. After making a million, I was looking to make about 5 million because I was building turkey apartments. I had a lot of stuff going on. I was doing okay. And everything then started to kind of fall apart because the syndicates I put together, they ran out of money and they were big, but I was a small boy in a lot of the syndicates, they got wiped out. And businesses and it's, you know, and then everyone just. They just fight their own battles. They just walk away, which, you know, at the time, you're kind of going, yeah, let me hold the crying baby. But that's. You just look. You look after your own house. And I understand, you know, that's Right.
[00:08:03] Speaker A: Right.
[00:08:04] Speaker B: So when everything fell down, usually with a limited liability company, you kind of. You wash your hands, you just brush yourself off and go in. And I had a lot of companies and I was the president and you're personally liable as the person. So I was personally liable for about 5 million.
[00:08:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: Instead of making 5 million and went the opposite direction, I was gonna. Yeah, I. True that. Then I saw so much corruption, I. I cleared the decks. I got it started eventually. It didn't. It took a bit of time, but got it sorted.
[00:08:36] Speaker A: Obviously you're sitting here as a result, you know, so obviously things. But.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: Geez, you know, But I saw so much corruption. Like bailiffs working with valuers devaluating a property.
[00:08:47] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:08:47] Speaker B: The valuers bribing people in a room. So they had their own cronies buying the property. And there was just so much. And I did over 100 court cases, and I just saw judges corrupt. I just saw corruption at so many levels. So I went to an event when I had the Dex Clarison and was like, what's your quest? And I was like, all right, I need to expose this. Because unfortunately, when people go through these situations, not only do relationships break, sometimes, unfortunately, people throw in the toe and it's like, no, this shouldn't happen. This is orchestrated by the powers that be. And I want to expose it. But there was two people at the thing that were brilliant speakers. I hated public speaking, even though I was working for the mechanical contracting company. Like, I'd often be in a room with 20 people. An architect, the builder, the client and everything, electrical contractors. And my voice is going to hate it. So I said, I have to overcome this. Came back and I said, I'm going to join Toastmasters because I was so brave, I had to bring people with me. They said, this is great. I said, yeah. And they said, but we haven't time for it. And I was too shy to go back on my own. And the only reason I joined was a new one was opening a few months later. And I said, all right, everyone's going to be new. I'm going. And they said, you want to sign up? Yeah. Are you going to speak next week? Yeah. And I just kind of went all in.
[00:09:57] Speaker A: Autopilot it.
[00:09:58] Speaker B: I just went all in. Then I went to the one that I had. Was afraid to kind of go again on my own, join that form. My Own club, international entrepreneurs. And I became a coach. I became a distinguished toastmaster within. I saw that and I done open TEDx International and open comedy, and I just entered Lords competition, and I just went from one extreme to the other. And it's an important thing because I had a crutch and I'm shy or I don't like to speak in public. And so many people have some sort of crutch. They say that because we've told ourselves a story and we believe that story. And it's like, I'm living proof that you can change that.
[00:10:31] Speaker A: Right? Well, I think the interesting thing about, you know, you can get in your own head about perceptions about yourself, and comedy is a lot harder than drama, right? Because making people laugh and eliciting emotion from people, and I'm not dissing anybody who's in the medium of that level of entertaining, but actually getting people to laugh is very, very hard. And then the second part about it is too, is like, you start seeing people stiffen their lip, they start sitting in their chair, and then you have to. I can only imagine trying to get people to laugh. You may be melting inside in real time. Like, man, is anything I'm gonna say start landing, you know, because it's. I. I couldn't even imagine trying to get people to, you know, I've been to comedy shows. I've been to successful ones, right? Like, you know, some successful US Comedians and what they have to do. To think of original material, hour, hour and a half is absolutely mind blowing. So kudos to you for being able to do that. And this is continued success in that medium. How do you. So you're doing these toastmaster events. Like, is it. Is it local? And you became the president, like, you became pretty high up in it, didn't you?
[00:11:30] Speaker B: You're like, I wasn't the president, but okay, okay. Like, I was coach of a club in Finland, and like the club I founded, I was the president then. I wanted other people to do it, but they didn't want it. And I was kind of driving on and like, there's different roles. You can be like, say, the toastmaster of the evening. So you could have 20 members. You might have 30 in some clubs.
[00:11:49] Speaker A: Right, right.
[00:11:50] Speaker B: But when you're a toastmaster, you're like, chairing the meeting and you decide the topic for two hours, and then you might have three speakers. You'll have table topics, which is like, you just call some up and you just say something. They must talk for two minutes. And I became very good at that for some reason, but evaluating is another one. So if you were a speaker, I'd evaluate you. I waited six months to do that because I was just still kind of nervous to do it. Once I started doing it, because I was watching different things, people started asking me to evaluate them. I was over 10 people asked me to be their mentor because I just. I'd watch different things. Plus, a lot of times people have a system where they go, a hamburger kind of thing. They say, nice, A bit of information. I just say it as it is. I'd go through the speech, and I'd even spot someone's feet kind of doing that or some sort of twitch or something. And I'd say, but I'd always do it in a nice way. And then they'd ask me to do it again. Or even if I wasn't the evaluator, they'd say, hey, would you mind making some notes for me?
And even if you like, when I recorded all my speeches, I was watching them just to see how I was performing the different things that if I saw some kind of flaw. But also sometimes just listen. You can put the phone down and just listen, and it's different. Sometimes turn off the sound and just watch, right? So if you want to improve, you just do a few things, right?
And you start benefiting from it.
[00:13:04] Speaker A: So who's inside of a toastmaster? Is it professionals? Is it professional comedians? Is it people who do this on the side? Like, you know, everybody, every walks of.
[00:13:12] Speaker B: Life, really, there was people that are working for corporations. You could even have someone that's unemployed. You can.
There's even a guy that was. You're supposed to be 18, just kind of ones for schools as well. There's a different setup for younger people, but supposed to be 80. There was one guy, he was 16, and he joined under his dad's name. And I was so impressed with him. Like. Like, I even got him on my podcast. It was like, I just thought, this is brilliant that a guy was doing. No, it's. And the. The thing is you actually make friends over. Like, I make great friends over there. It wasn't something I was expecting. That wasn't the purpose of it. But you just. Because, like, you. Somebody come along and they're. You seem terrified, and you know what it's like. And then you see them evolving, and it's so beautiful. And then you just see, like, you can have polished speakers, but without a heart. And when you see somebody that actually does something and they're really caring about people or they're doing something or they're trying to fire, that's way better for me.
[00:14:05] Speaker A: Well, it's funny because I've interviewed a professional musician and I said, you know, I can't play an instrument to save my life, but I do. You can tell when somebody's autopiling it, playing. Like there's a difference between somebody who can play and who's playing with conviction to enjoy an audience. Right. And you've been to concerts and it's. It's not about the music, it's about the experience.
Right. The music's just secondary, right? Yeah. You know, the songs, you can recite the lyrics, but when the, when the entertainer is involved with the audience, when they're singing along with the songs, and then we've seen clips of bad ones where the artist has basically packed it in, right. And they're just like. You're like.
[00:14:40] Speaker B: Like just recently. No Timberlake.
[00:14:42] Speaker A: And he just kind of.
[00:14:43] Speaker B: I think we both could do that one.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: Right, right. So you see, I mean, we've all seen those things. You're just like, geez, man, like, you know, you charge this amount of money and that's the experience you gave people. People are like, they're going to dinner, they had drinks afterwards, they're buying T shirts, etc, and then you're just like, dang, you really pulled that on those people, huh?
[00:14:57] Speaker B: Like, wow.
[00:14:58] Speaker A: So let's.
[00:14:59] Speaker B: You find that actually, because music. And my brother, he learned piano. He is so talented. He's a brilliant singer. Like, he hear a song, he can play it in five minutes.
[00:15:09] Speaker A: That's amazing.
[00:15:10] Speaker B: Like, everything. I wanted to play guitar when I was 16 and I went to an instructor and he was teaching me stuff I didn't like. He used to be looking out the window, waiting for the hour to end because it was so bad. And I. Yeah, what a horrible experience for that is. If you're thinking of doing it, make sure they're. They're playing stuff you like and then you're enjoying it. And it's the same with languages and everything because sometimes we think all they know better than us. Make sure you're enjoying it, because if you enjoy it, you'll get better than anything. And that whether it's a speaking coach, whether it's a language, anything. Sure. You connect with them.
[00:15:43] Speaker A: Well, I do. I do martial arts and I have a black belt and tung sudo, Korean karate. I've done other different styles as well too. Brazilian jiu jitsu, Taekwondo, Muay Thai. And to your point, if you don't enjoy it or you don't have a good coach. And I've been fortunate enough to have very good instructors, Masters. It shows in their passion of teaching. Because if you don't have a good teacher. And I've seen about places that did not. I've read about places that did not. It's a very unfortunate experience because, you know, you'll hear stories from people about what they took place because, like, to your point of the looking out the window to the. The instructor that's not engaged with their students, like, you have to be all in when you are providing a service to people. Because, you know, we live in a duplicated society where people all have skill sets and can easily duplicate what you're doing right now. You know, whether it's property management, whether it's a podcast, whether it's a concert, a musician. Like, you don't have the luxury of basically resting on your laurels if you're trying to build something because it's too competitive out there. So my next question.
[00:16:44] Speaker B: Kung Fu for about six or eight years, and going on stage, it was brilliant. It was with a lot of people, but it just fizzled away. There was only four of us. We were just. He didn't want money. He said, just pay for the hall.
[00:16:56] Speaker A: Right.
[00:16:57] Speaker B: We were doing that for a few years. And I mean, right. You know, the guy. And he was like. It was like, I would still be doing it if I was. If I didn't move out of this. It fell apart because I had to move away. We didn't have enough people to cover the house.
[00:17:09] Speaker A: Exactly right. And those things happen. Right. But, you know, if it's a club, particularly if it's a club, that's when, you know you're getting good training because, you know, they're not in there to get rich. It's not franchise or anything like that. So what about Brain Gym? You know, the mental fitness you're a co founder of. So can we talk about that? I was very curious about that because people often think, you know, I lift weights, I run, I jog, but they're forgetting about the six inches upstairs.
[00:17:30] Speaker B: Exactly, Exactly. My business partner, Arnold, and I'd recommend that, actually, that, you know, he's a fascinating guy. He's doing it for about 25 years. He worked for KLM. He was managing about 6,000 people. But a lot of it is kind of. He's not about to stretch. And it's kind of stuff that I have learned through my life through kind of just trials and error. We try to fit in in life. Like when you're young, you're good when you do what your parents tell me tell you in school, do what you. And it's not necessarily you being you, it's not getting out of your creative zone. So there's a lot of that. It's, it's like how to talk to people, making your mind work. Because like my, my grandmother, she lived to three weeks short of 96.
She used crosswords.
[00:18:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:16] Speaker B: A lot of times you talk to people, you know that they don't do anything. So you have to work, work on your brain, work on your health. It's all mindset and just making sure you're looking after instead of having a cupboard full of medication, you can.
It's a combination of things like that. Because as you say, I mean, I was at the gym today. I love going to the gym. I enjoy it, but I make sure, you know, I have my great vitamins, I eat as organically as possible.
[00:18:43] Speaker A: For sure.
[00:18:43] Speaker B: There's a lot to be doing. So that's what we're kind of combining and making sure, you know, health wise.
[00:18:47] Speaker A: And, you know, because people are stressed, their schedules are very compressed and, you know, things are mentally taxing, whether it's family work, you know, balancing life. And you know, oftentimes people get in a very, you know, whether it's depression, whether it's, you know, reaching a certain age bracket and necessarily not accomplishing the things that they thought they were going to accomplish. And so if you don't have a mental coach, you know, and I think a lot of times mental became a stigma until just a couple years ago. Right. So it wasn't something that was emphasized. But people who were really into the field are now being utilized for their services at a much higher level than it was before because now it's okay to talk to somebody about what's going on upstairs.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: And the thing is, the industry is heavily flawed because a lot of people are getting you in to have you as a patient for life and shame on them. And people go there, they're just reliving their memory of what they've done. And then they come away and they're coming back again next week or else they're being prescribed a lot of stuff that isn't helping either. And it's like, I think we have to, whether it's courts, because obviously experience, I think the white coat, a lot of things, a lot of times you have to kind of your sovereignty comes from within and you have to learn to trust yourself as well, trust your intuition instead of Just passing over. I mean, even with court cases, I mentioned I had 100 cases, most of the ones I won were because of myself paying attention and watch, putting what was going on. A lot of my represented myself. But it's like most people, they just pass it to the solicitor or attorney, whatever they're called in each country and they just let them do their job. And it's like, no, you have to.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: Look after your, you have to be engaged well, you know, like it's crazy. Like even if you go to the doctor, right, like how often do we autopilot it and just take the. Wait for the prescription to come from the pharmacy. You don't even look up the medication that it is. You don't look up the side effects. You don't look at whether it makes you drowsy or you have allergic reactions. You usually find out after something bad happens when you take that medication and then two or three days later you're like, man, I got nauseous, I got dizzy, I got, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And then you look it up and you're like, dang, man, I wish I'd have looked that up before I got said yes to just taking this pill. You know, maybe it would have been better if I would have just. I'm not saying that every pill is bad, but we don't do our homework until after the consequences took place because we think that the pill will solve everything, right, so to speak. And then we trust.
[00:21:02] Speaker B: I've, I've learned so much because I read a lot on this. There's so much natural stuff up there and it's all quashed. All the websites are being shut down.
Like I've had guests on as well. I mean, I've seen it, I've seen shadow banning, blocking moval of. They don't want that information out there because it's, it's hurting their bottom dollar of the stuff they're doing for sure.
So you just look after yourself, find out the information, start reading the book, start checking a few different things. Ask people who's experienced this, like, social media is good in that way. Hey, I've got this. Anyone got any good suggestion? People will tell you, they'll say, hey, I've tried this. And if you see a comment, hey, just 10 people said they've tried this and it works. And it's a natural thing, right? You know, it's, it's a lot better than taking a mate that might, as you say, loads of side effects.
[00:21:45] Speaker A: And so I would love to talk about, you know, your podcast and career. So you've developed over 20 successful companies, been very, you know, you're highly acclaimed when it comes to your podcasting. How did you get into it? What was your approach and how do you continue to have continued success in this medium?
[00:22:01] Speaker B: I went to another event and a guy was doing a kind of an evening on starting a podcast. I never even thought about it and I was like, oh, it was always for me, it was about Exposing. And I. I was like, okay, I'd like to have a podcast on Exposing. I said, I'd probably be attacked. So the first one I done was in 2018 was the speaking podcast, because I said, I've been on so many competitions, loads of people that will be guests. So that was an easy one for me. And then it's just kind of evolved from there. I did a meditation one because through my journey, meditation really helped me. Kind of like the act of forgiveness attitude, things like that. And there was ones I was listening to and they became paid or they disappeared. And I was like, no, I want to have meditation and interviews as well. That's going to be free for all of us. And that was kind of my I don't learn polish one. I mean, that's been.
That's kind of an example of when you're creating your podcast to do a nice graphic, because I didn't really expect that to be successful. So I just, I did it. My ex wife and I just set up the tripod, took a picture and then a crappy graphic and it was like number one, ahead of Duolingo. Ahead of. It's got over 3 million downloads already. Like, you know, between the audio and the video. And it's like. And then I changed it. I created a beautiful graphic afterwards. I mean, actually. Oh, you don't have the green screen on this one. But usually I love a green screen and I have the logos behind it. But what I say to people is make sure that the logo is actually decent, you know, no matter what where you think.
[00:23:23] Speaker A: Right, right.
[00:23:23] Speaker B: It makes it different. Because what happens too is people, they create the graphic and they're looking at the computer.
Oh, my gosh, this looks great. But the thing is, it's a tiny little box when people are scrolling through the itunes stores or the Spotify or something like that. Does it look good there? Do people know what it's about? Does it stick out? So you have to kind of, you know, navigate that. So, like, I've had six. I've had a crypto. So, like we were talking about knowing stuff and not I. I understood a little bit of crypto, but I started getting a few books and I was like, this is gobble ego. Because like none of them could under explain. So I created it because I saw there was a lot of spamming going on and stuff like that. So it was about exposure and I've learned so much. But there's also experience, people going, hey, I didn't know that because of my curious mind. I'm asking questions and I'm just trying to find out, like now if you're making a will because of the seed phrase. Like, so for those you know, you have a phrase if you're having your wallet to protect it, but you don't want to give it to your solicitor because that's being corrupt solicitors. You don't want to give it to your accountant, those being corrupt accountants.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: Right.
[00:24:19] Speaker B: You can give it your spouse, but she could be the one that does the dirt on you and take you for your money. You have to. And just think it's okay to ask these things. And I did. They're the kind of questions that I'm asking. Yeah. And then the pod father. So that's one that's helping existing podcasters or those looking to start, and it's to keep them in the game because like with the media, it's all regurgitated lies. We see that all the time. Whereas podcasts are great because you can listen when you want, when it's convenient for you. I mean, I listen to Most of my boy 2 if it's video, I can go up to buy 3 and a half if it's audio. And it's strange that you can comprehend that, but if you build it slow, you can. So I get through a lot of content and you'll end up listening to brilliant people and learning more than the same stuff that's repeated all over the. I mean, the mainstream, they just put Big Pharma, where you learn natural stuff on a podcast, for example, and you.
[00:25:11] Speaker A: Can gravitate towards things that interest you. So it narrows down your specific things that you want to get into, want to listen to. So I've had the pleasure of being able to talk to people across the globe that I normally wouldn't have the opportunity to because of what? Because of this. So here you are, you know, in Poland, real estate. I've talked to another gentleman in Poland just last week.
So there are people that have experiences, happy mediums of success, stories to tell, compelling narratives and great biographies simply because of what this Medium has created and allowed us to speak with one another. And so you realize through this that your zip code is not just the pinnacle of success, the street you drive down, or your postal code that you guys may refer to it. In Europe's part of the world, the world is much bigger than just what you stare at on a day by day basis. And it's very important to stay curious. And that's why you have Brain Gym, that's why you do podcasts, because your mind has to stay fresh and challenged to be able to always have your mind moving. And ultimately, when you do get older, you may thank yourself for reading and watching things because it can deteriorate before you know it, you know, and so all those things will ultimately lead you to good places in life. And conversations like this are very compelling because I got to be honest with you, man, a toastmaster is, you know, entrepreneur and, you know, coming from mowing lawns, it's a fascinating story, man. It really is.
[00:26:41] Speaker B: I think the thing is never fair or anything. It's like just yes and be like, for example, podcasting, like sometimes people, I don't have time to do so you can listen to a podcast when you're driving, if you have to bring your children around the way to work. When I'm earning, I'm listening to a podcast. If you're going to the gym, you can listen to podcasts. If you're going for a walk, double dip. When you're cooking, listen to a podcast. You know, just you. I call it double dipping. You know, you can do two things at once and what happens then is you just start like whether you're listening to a cooking one, natural, healthy food. There's so many things you can do, even if it's a humor thing, because especially in the world we're living in, it's nice to listen to something that makes you laugh and that's good as well. That lifts your spirits.
[00:27:18] Speaker A: And I think what it does too is it breaks down, you know, entry barriers for people too, right? Because a lot of times, you know, you're, you can be your own gatekeeper, so to speak, right? So like you have the opportunity to grow organically when you have compelling stories that you found that niche. So you do your podcasting and you help other podcasters. What exactly do people, what are your services provide for people? Is it the production side, is the marketing side, is it the entry level growth? Or is it kind of a mixture.
[00:27:46] Speaker B: Of all of it? Bit of everything that you just mentioned? It's like I. The Main kind of ones for the podcasting kind of businesses such as somebody that's starting off, I take them through from start to finish, do the whole lot, explain everything from between logo websites, everything existing guys that are doing it and they just reach a plateau to say this is moving so. Because I'm kind of looking at it from different days and you know, sometimes I've even had people, they hit, they started off with a coach and then I, I got involved with them and it's a different because everyone's got their own kind of skill set and everything. Or I help people do a podcasting tour and with the team then the va because I've got the virtual assistants business.
[00:28:26] Speaker A: Right.
[00:28:27] Speaker B: So yes, with that then we can help people with the editing. We can do, you know, websites, we can do like anything that you need, anything that you need a virtual assistant from.
Like how we're kind of different for that is sometimes people like years ago I was getting people, I was going to fiverr and I was going to upwork Fiverr. Sometimes they'd be okay, you're checking, you're spending a lot of time and then eventually usually they start off grand and then they're like, or else they're not grand and you're just fighting to get your money back. And if you look at the hours that you spend just doing that with upwork date, you get the screenshot and same thing starts off okay. And then it's like I'm seeing screenshots but I don't really see much of a difference because I think and there was somebody recently in America, they were on a high end job, they were like a quarter of a million or something. But they were doing a few of them because remotely and I'm convinced a lot of these people, they have a few jobs as well.
[00:29:13] Speaker A: So for sure they do.
[00:29:15] Speaker B: You might be lucky to get 10. And the way we do it is we do it on packages so we end up talking to the people. Okay, what exactly are you looking for? We break it down and we go, we're doing this so you're not watching over your shoulder to make sure we're doing that at the start. There's always tweaks, there's always, you know, expectations go, okay, look, let's do. And then, then it just runs smoothly and you start working. And it's in our interest then to make sure that their, their listenership is growing and everything is working well. Because whether it's sponsorship that they're getting in or listeners leads to more clients for whatever they're offering themselves. So we're always kind of looking at a win win instead of, let's get a client, let's look for the next one. It's like, right, they recommend people are there.
What happens a lot is they increase the service. They start off putting their toe in the water, and then they put their foot and then they dive head first and it's like, it's a nice, you know, that you're doing well. When, when they do that, they kind of go all in and they're, they're happy with the service. And it's mainly that I. I kind of like to treat every client like I like to be treated myself. I will not allow them to be abusive. Right? And we. I like working with people that I respect and I like them as a person because I mean, even in property, there's times I fired people because it was like one big client. He was just. He sucked my energy. Like, you work with somebody and it's just every single thing. And it's like you're spending 80% of your energy on someone and you fire. And that's one thing. We don't want to work with people like that. It's no doubt, you know, why bother you? You work with people that make you feel good. You know, you're helping them, they're making an impact on the world and it's kind of not gonna fit.
[00:30:46] Speaker A: Oh, definitely. People exhaust you, you know what I mean? And then, you know, at the end of the day, like, what happens is, and this is, is a general statement to make. People will get so accustomed to a person that somehow they become convinced that you're supposed to be able to put up with certain behaviors, right? And then it just. Because it doesn't. It's not like there's a. There's a viable solution that they're looking to work towards. It's that you've become their outlet for their rage, right? And so then you start coming looking like every time I'm around you, you just have. You're somehow putting a weight on me. And, and to your point, with that client, like, listen, dude, you know, you had enough clients in your clientele base where you can make that decision. You're just like, honestly, you're not worth the time anymore. Because like you said, man, I'm getting the life sucked out of me every single time I'm around you. This is just not productive use of my time. So obviously you're very successful and you don't need me to talk about you and what you've accomplished. But for the listeners of this podcast, where can they find Roycollen?
[00:31:39] Speaker B: Go to roycolin.com that's my name, that's c o u g h l a n dot com or if they're looking for the virtual assistant, go to VA World, our Brain Gym Fitness.
[00:31:50] Speaker A: And I really appreciate your time and I know you have you do multiple things and for you to be able to carve out time out of your busy schedule is a very big honor and pleasure of mine. On the Tron podcast, Roy Hit. It's been an absolute pleasure and I hope we have another follow up show as well too.
[00:32:04] Speaker B: Well, I really appreciate it and what I would do is encourage the listeners because I've listened to some of your shows. Make sure you go if you're on Spotify, there's three dots. You can give a five star rating. If you're on Apple, give a five star rating and a review. It makes a massive difference. If you're listening on the video, thumbs up, even a little comment, even a hat because it helps the algorithms and I think you're giving good value to the world.
[00:32:24] Speaker A: So I appreciate your listeners, I really appreciate the kind words about that and I can't thank you enough and I appreciate your time and the kind words. Thank you.
