Amira Nyström

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome everyone back to the Tron podcast. This is your host, Rashad Woods. I have a very, very interesting person here with an incredibly inspiring story. I would like to welcome Ms. Amira Nystrom. Thank you so much for joining me. [00:00:14] Speaker B: Thank you for having me. [00:00:15] Speaker A: It's a very big honor. I really appreciate it. So you have one of the more fascinating bios that I've had a chance to read about. It's hugely inspiring and you've made your kind of your cause to help others. Would you care to share your background a little bit with everyone? Please. [00:00:31] Speaker B: Yeah. So I have had a bit of a crazy health journey, conquering things like severe Crohn's disease. I was able to heal from a brain surgery that had less than 1% chance of coming back as a fully functioning person. And it gave me a bit of an access to restart, reset, and create the life that I actually want. And I love that the brain surgery kind of gave me that opportunity and. But I wanted to find a way too, where I could help others reset and restart. And so, yeah, now I've became a hypnotist and coach and try to help people also restart their life and from whatever point they're at. [00:01:19] Speaker A: So before you did, you got to this point in your. In your life where you've done credible work. I had a chance to check out what you do, and we'll get into that in a minute. But what were you doing before this that suddenly made you do this? 180. And we're like, you know what? I'm gonna take this path because this is a path of happiness and success. That's a pretty drastic. I've never really heard of a career like this. [00:01:38] Speaker B: No, I. I started with, honestly working at Red Robin when I had my brain surgery and I had like five different jobs. I was running around and I was a server. And my big dream was to become a bartender because that was the coolest thing in front of me. Like, I could do this next level thing in the world that I'm in. And then when I had the brain surgery, I decided to do something totally different. And so I just went to Maui and started a completely different life and met some random people person in the jungle that told me to. That I should create a business and create residual income. And I was like, oh, that's a good idea. And it took me on a bit of a journey. Just imagine. [00:02:33] Speaker A: You literally went to like where volcanoes and mountains are in the jungle and met like, you know, like, I can't make this up. That's awesome. Like, I've never heard anything like that. Like, I, I, I know I don't want to get too much in your personal life, but like, when you told like in your inner circle, the people, they probably thought that was the craziest thing in the world to do, right? Like, I'm gonna pack my bags, I'm gonna quote, unquote, find myself. Right? [00:02:57] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. It's like a, they especially having just recovered from brain surgery, they were all pretty concerned because, you know, they're, they're used to taking a lot of care of me and, and they just couldn't do anything because I was just going to go to Maui and figure it out. So they're like, but can you take care of yourself? Are you good? Yeah. My family and friends were definitely really concerned. But yeah, it felt good and I couldn't, I was just on a journey to find where am I supposed to be? Because this feels wrong. Whatever I'm in right now feels wrong. So let's go on a adventure and see where. [00:03:36] Speaker A: Okay, so, so you land in Maui, right. And so, you know, get there and you meet this person that tells you, you know, hey, I'm on a spiritual journey. Clearly you were like minded with this individual that you met and you started transforming this into the business. So how did that come into turning into a business where, okay, I'm going to take the next step to make sure that this is something that's a lifestyle that I'm going to live and, and help others and have residual income and live off of this lifestyle? [00:04:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Started with just seeing that some people do things differently. I hadn't really seen that. I lived in Seattle and so it's just hustle and bustle around me where everyone was on a rush somewhere chasing something. Yeah, yeah. And I think with it being more expensive to live there and stuff, people have to work so hard to really make something of themselves. And so just having been around that, I thought, oh, this is what you're supposed to do. This is the, this is the thing that I should be doing too. And then when I went to Maui and I saw people that were, had a completely different perspective, I just, I was like, oh, you're rich here if you have time. Yeah, never heard of that. [00:05:01] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right. And so, you know, you know, and it's not a landlocked state, so it's a kind of like, even though it's, I've never been there, but it's a country kind of unto itself. Right. Like, it's not like you Drive to Seattle and then you know, XYZ amount of hours later you're in Oregon or you drive up north, you're in Vancouver. Right. This is a self sustaining kind of area, I would imagine, right? [00:05:22] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's a completely different mindset in a different world where. Yeah. Where people just seem to make up their own reality. Like I kept making friends with people who just, they were building things and then all of a sudden they created these giant yard games and now that's their business and they are successful doing that. So I was like, you can just do anything. Like I met this one man that's. He's called Coconut Glenn and he told a cool story at a jungle pid like or like a mini luau type thing. And he just told the story of when he was younger, he just wanted to make ice cream for people. And, and he's like, my parents thought this is ridiculous, you should become a doctor. You should, you know, strive for something. [00:06:09] Speaker A: Bigger than that million dollar business, ladies and gentlemen, by the way. [00:06:13] Speaker B: Yeah. And then he did, he made a massive movement with coconut based ice cream. And he's huge on Maui, like super successful at it. But listening to these stories where I looked at people in the eye like it's different when you hear of a story like somewhere out there. But I was like this man literally just committed to this path and thoroughly succeeded. And, and I guess it invited in that thought process that oh, I can do anything, I can just. Yeah. [00:06:48] Speaker A: And the thing is too is that I think a lot of things are structured for people. Right. Like you're supposed to post education, you're supposed to follow this path because this is what the image that's built for your, you know, what's been kind of passed down from years and years. And when you had a life altering experience like that, I think it put a lot in perspective. You know, I haven't had anything like that. But I think you probably, if I'm guessing just listening to you, you, you realize how much way you wanted your life to go. [00:07:21] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Felt that there was, there must be something real out there and there must be a way, like a more real way to experience life. Like I couldn't justify. When I went back into my serving job after the brain surgery and I stood there as someone was having a full blown meltdown that I forgot to bring her ranch for her place. I was like, oh my God, what is this like real life? It was just mind blowing to me. I was like, I cannot work this job anymore. This is not for me, I did not come back from the other side with a less than 1% chance to, like, justify why I forgot to bring this woman ranch. Like, I'm not. I'm not doing this. [00:08:08] Speaker A: I don't mean to laugh, right, Like. But I mean, like, I mean, I'm sure you probably, like, ma'am, you have any idea what I came back from? [00:08:16] Speaker B: I just, like, I couldn't even, like, go back to the table. My sister came up to me, and she said, hey, Amir, like, you have a reputation in this restaurant to be, like, really good server. And it's being. It's a problem right now because you're not. You don't seem to care. And I was like, I don't. I don't. I don't care at all. She's like, so all your tables are upset. And then she decided to run around and help me and be a good sister. And so. But afterwards, she's like, we need to talk. That was ridiculous. [00:08:44] Speaker A: And that was the beginning of the end. [00:08:47] Speaker B: Yeah. I was just like, I don't have it in me anymore. I don't care. I could not. You could not pay me anything to care to do this any longer. And I didn't really have any savings either. So I just went to Maui and, like, landed with a few hundred dollars and figured it out. Yeah. And then made some friends, and they're like, this is where the newcomers seem to pick up a job. And like, okay, cool. I need one of those. Yeah, good for you. [00:09:18] Speaker A: And so you land. And so I saw, like, you know, you. You went through a lot, too, right? For what's such a positive demeanor. So you went through Crohn's disease? You know, I had a buddy. I have a buddy who has that. And it's a really debilitating illness. And I saw that you've been able to manage that. Yeah, he's on a very strict diet because of that, right? [00:09:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:38] Speaker A: I'm imagining that's somewhat similar to you. How did you figure out how to battle through that? And what foods do you eat to kind of make sure that that stays in remission? [00:09:48] Speaker B: Yeah. This is a crazy one, because I was a bit of a world traveler, so I ended up in Madeira in Portugal, and they had some extra variant during COVID and so we couldn't leave, and I couldn't import medicine. I couldn't get medicine there, and then I couldn't ship it in, and I couldn't leave to go get it. And for me, I had been on strict medicine for, like, 10 years of shots to, like. And without the shots, I would crumble. And I just. I had a few meltdowns, a few nights in a row. And then I decided I'm. I've always wanted to heal myself naturally, like, to heal my gut. So I don't know what to do, but I'm gonna do all the research. And I just binged on videos and material online, and there's a lot of stuff that contradicts each other, so it's hard to know what to do. But what I learned is that the most important thing I learned is that we have to be active. So with Crohn's disease or with anything that's fighting us on the inside, like, there's literally something that's, like, fighting with us, and it's like trying to pull down the hole. And so what I realized is I have to be a bit of a warrior with myself. Not a bit, actually. I have to be a full blown warrior with myself and, like, get myself active regularly. Like, stagnation is one of the worst things with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis, because it just kind of. Oh, festers. But and food wise, the main thing was intermittent fasting changed my life a bit. So I realized that the gut's actually wanting to heal itself all the time. But when we put food in there, snacks, like, there's such a snack culture now. But when you put food in, then those parts that were trying to heal themselves, like, they prioritize processing the food. So I realized if I'm not eating, then my body is healing itself. And I never did, like 24 hour fast, but I did. I started doing the eight hour eating windows. [00:12:00] Speaker A: And, yeah, my brother does that. My brother does that. You do this. [00:12:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:04] Speaker A: And stuff like that. Exactly. [00:12:05] Speaker B: So that. That became my normal life. Like, that's still my life because I can break that maybe a few times here and there, and it's no problem. And micrones doesn't flare up. But if I'm regularly doing what, you know, what most people are doing, which is eating breakfast at 8 and snacking until, like, you know, 11pm, like, I could not do that 100%. Food wise, I think is gluten's not the easiest. Dairy's not the easiest. I tried to go vegetarian for a while, but it honestly made things worse for me. So I actually eat a ton of meat and a ton of cooked vegetables, a ton of potatoes and rice and broth and things like that. But it's just learning. Yeah. I have, like, endless Knowledge on, you know, what works with Crohn's. I don't know how much you want to go into. [00:12:59] Speaker A: No, no. And then, yeah, like, you. You have such a fascinating story. I don't want to, you know, stick down too much of anything. Right. But I was just thinking of my buddy. He basically turned to a Presbyterian, right? So he can't, you know, he's like, if I avoid pizza, I eat lots of fish. And then I'm. I'm good. [00:13:13] Speaker B: I'm like, yo, dude, this fish is great. [00:13:16] Speaker A: Yeah, it's crazy. So, you know, it's interesting. So talk about, like, hypnotherapy. Hypnotherapy. Did I pronounce that right? Right. And then how did you become a retreat specialist? I imagine that probably happened in Maui. I'm just guessing that's just my, you know, humble opinion, but I don't want to step out of pocket if that's different. So tell me about those two and how you turned. How did that career kind of evolve for you? [00:13:39] Speaker B: The retreats world was kind of me looking for fun experiences that felt fun, and I was traveler on a budget. So I was just volunteering at all the different retreats and events. Like, everything that sounded fun. I thought, well, they need extra people maybe. So I would just pitch myself as a volunteer for as many events as possible, really. And. And then I just kind of learned how it went, and I would get randomly upgraded into paid positions just by being in the right place at the right time. Absolutely. And then I thought, I can do this myself. So I started hosting my own retreats, and I love, love, love them. I think it's powerful for people to step into. I guess it's me trying to give people the experience that I got when I went to Maui, where I could just go somewhere completely new and be around people I don't know and find some part of myself, you know, just. [00:14:37] Speaker A: Like on a sidebar, you know, I know you. It was crazy because there was this couple that went off the grid when they got married for their honeymoon. I think they went to Maui. I'm not sure. And they didn't bring their cell phones for two weeks, and they had no idea Covid happened during that time. I was like, it was bonkers. They said they landed back home, and they were like, the world shut down. They knew nothing about it. It's like you're wired into being on the Internet and being like, that's a lifestyle that, you know, when you kind of pivot back to what you do for A living. What kind of client or person comes out there that you see at your retreats? [00:15:14] Speaker B: The last retreat I hosted had 22 people. So sold out, but it was 22 people that had never left the United States, that had never had a passport and that had never. And they came out to Mexico. So to me, that was super cool to be able to create this unique. Because sometimes we have travel buddies and friends that we want to do cool with. But of course in reality, most people don't, you know, so they, they. Yeah, they're like, oh, I would like to do something cool, but I don't know how or I don't know. You know, there's too much doubt and fear and stuff. So what I found is all these, all these people came out, they don't know each other. And we created a tribe in the jungle and we were barefoot. And I put them through all these challenges of like ice baths and like Temescals is like sweat lodges and different types of confidence, confrontational, get to know yourself games. [00:16:13] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:16:15] Speaker B: And I guess all to invite that warrior spirit to come through of like, you know, when you sit in an ice bath, I don't know if you've no idea. [00:16:25] Speaker A: No, no. [00:16:27] Speaker B: Like everything in your body says this is bad. You know, it's just like it feels so horrible and it feels like you're gonna die. But there's something that happens after that 30 second mark or the 1 minute mark where you relax into it and you're like, I'm a warrior. [00:16:41] Speaker A: Oh my. It's awesome. You know, I've never done that. But I'm talking to somebody who does. You may make me do that. I think I'll probably like on a lower scale. You know what I mean? Like when I wash my hands cold and build myself up, I'm not diving completely into that. [00:16:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:58] Speaker A: So you do Maui. I saw you do Indonesia. I forgot the island that I looked it up and saw that it was Bali. Bali, yes. Yes. So Lake Hat is. So do you have to get with like the tourism industry for each respective country that you do that in in order to host that? [00:17:14] Speaker B: It's different for each one. I normally work with someone local that. That has those connects and that makes that happen. It's not. It's rarely a one man operation, but. But it's. But yeah, it's normally making those connections that. Where we can make sure that we're also supporting them and that it's not just. [00:17:34] Speaker A: Of course. So is it like your typical. So you have people who like, hey, you know, I'm. I'm sure there's probably even married couples that kind of life kind of got stagnated and kind of got routine, and they're like, hey, we need to do something that kind of just says, let's get out of our shelves for a week or two to do something to. To reconnect or. Or feel inspired in a way. Right. I'm sure you get a lot of that too, right? People who are burned out, etc. [00:18:00] Speaker B: Yeah. I think what I'm passionate about with it is making people feel a bit alive again, like, even in the smallest ways. Like on Maui, when I lived in the jungle, I would hitchhike and I would. I ended up in this. I know it's been an adventure, but I hitchhiked with this family and they were gonna take me home. They're like, oh, yeah, we'll drop you off. But they just looked a bit like some part of the energy felt a little off tens, you know, and they're on their Maui vacation. It's what. How often do families do vacations like this? You know? So I was like, I want to see. So I just kept talking to them and seeing if there was a way that I could figure out, like, what's happening in this car. And then towards the end, I said, why don't we just go to this cliff jumping spot? It's gorgeous. They're like, oh, my son has autism. And so he, you know, we have to do things a certain way. And. But he looked excited. And I was like, honestly, people with autism in particular tend to love it. And. And so I took them to this gorgeous place outside in nature, and the whole family came alive. They were cliff jumping and, like, laughing, and I hadn't felt. So it was just those moments, like those micro moments where you just decide to do something that makes you feel alive and it kind of like ripples throughout the family. [00:19:27] Speaker A: But, yeah, story was actually going in another direction. So I'm glad it turned out well because the way you were saying, they were acting kind of funny. I'm like, oh, God, don't tell me. Like, no, I'm like, I'm like, waiting for, like, the bad thing. So it ended well. So I'm glad that that was positive. [00:19:40] Speaker B: Like, polite to me, but just you can feel when bonds like relationships or families, when there's just tension. And from my perspective, I was like, this doesn't need to be here. I was freshly out of brain surgery. I was like, this is odd. We must be able to have fun, right? [00:19:55] Speaker A: Oh, my Goodness. So here's. So I, I look, I listed a couple questions because like to, to try to like this wasn't a conventional like job look up that I could actually do. So I was like, I gotta find out more about like hot meal therapy. Right. So like is, is there like a certification or like a qualification to be like that? I mean I'd be like that, have that status to be called such. [00:20:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's different state to state, but for me I got certified in less than six months. And it's. But it's just, it's such a wild world of like being able to alter the things in your subconscious mind, you know, I guess most people are in these prisons of like, who should I be and what should I do and what does the world want from me? They see what they can become as like these tiny increments from their reality right now. And I guess what I've found with it is even for myself, like I had the brain surgery and it like, like shot me open but. But stuff comes back and so I started using hypnotherapy just on myself at first to expand and I was like, I want more. Oh, what does that look like? Or I want to do more. And then. Yeah. And now it's became a bit of a. Yeah. Passionate business. [00:21:13] Speaker A: That's fit. That's odd. So do you, did you have to read books? Like, I mean is it, do you do like tai chi, yoga, etc? Is it kind of an all encompassing thing? So if somebody comes to a retreat and you're meeting you for the first time, first of all, before they go, is there some sort of qualification screen there to make sure this is right for them? [00:21:32] Speaker B: Yeah, we have calls before, like a few calls that are question and answer and then a few calls that are just doing some exercises together. I've never personally had to say you can't come to somebody. I haven't. But I know it's like my adventure company and epic that we have gotten people that book that are not so friendly on the phone and I just tell them to go to a different company. I'm like, actually we're sold out, but these guys are so awesome. [00:22:07] Speaker A: But positivity coming the entire time. [00:22:10] Speaker B: Yeah, but with the retreats I've never, I've never ran into somebody that I haven't wanted to work with. [00:22:17] Speaker A: Okay. [00:22:18] Speaker B: Prior to the retreat. Yeah, I think it's all just as long as people are bringing a good energy and they're not. You know, there's certain rules, obviously, you. [00:22:28] Speaker A: Know that's just, you know, because I would think that, you know, hey, there's. Is this right for you? Because maybe it's not for somebody. Maybe somebody making, like, an impulse decision and then suddenly you got them on the phone and, you know, they don't call back because they're like, you know what? I kind of jumped the gun on thinking this was for me. [00:22:41] Speaker B: Yes. Otherwise, it's. [00:22:44] Speaker A: I don't think you'll be driving me in the middle of the jungle anytime soon, to be quite honest. You know, I just got to keep it real. That's not going to be, you know, I'm temperature controlled, you know, like, that's, you know, that's not happening. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Temperature control. [00:22:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I like my. I'm just keeping it on it. I'm gonna keep 100, you know, like the, The. The. Was that air? You know, the. The, you know, controlled air, controlled heat, whatever you want to call that. [00:23:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:07] Speaker A: Now. No, but I loved hearing you talk about it. And it's. You know, me personally, it would take a lot, you know. [00:23:15] Speaker B: Where are you based? [00:23:16] Speaker A: I'm based right outside of Detroit, Michigan. Right. So. [00:23:19] Speaker B: Okay. [00:23:19] Speaker A: But, you know, there's a certain level of envy for a lifestyle like that. So, you know, I. That's why I thought it was one of the more fascinating stories that I had heard. I saw, like, hypnosis. It started, like, in like, the 1700. So just kind of back to your. Your. What are the misconceptions about, like, hypnosis retreats and things that people, you know, that you see movies, you see tv, and you think of some kind of way, and then, you know. Can you explain that? [00:23:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that with hypnosis, the main thing I've gotten from some people is I had this funny character that said, I don't believe I can be hypnotized. And I was like, well, then you are correct, sir, because it's not mind control. You know, it's not like we are going in and we're, like, forcing them to do weird things. It's. It's not something like that. It's like a deep meditation. Not everyone meditates, but it's basically you just go into a deeper part of yourself. And then the goal with the hypnosis that I do is I'll get, like, some info from them before of what is it they're working on, what do they want to solve, cure, handle? And then when we go into that, like, deep meditative state that we call a trans, then I just plug that in, you know, and there's nothing coming through me that wasn't said by the person in the pre process. But I think that, I think that the misconception is probably that the mind control is the funniest one I've heard. Like they're like, what's gonna happen to me? Am I gonna do something crazy? I'm like, I hope not. Most people just, you know, they just sit there. [00:25:05] Speaker A: You're gonna watch them walk off a clip because you like hypnotized to do it, right? [00:25:09] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it's not works. And with retreats, I think, I mean I, I don't know if people judge retreats to be anything like maybe bougie or something. But I don't know. I. Yeah, I have no idea if people actually judge that one because I've only ever been around people who seem to love them. [00:25:34] Speaker A: So is there like physical challenges that you put, you said you put people through like physical challenges and things like that. So like can you give me an example of some of the physical chances you would put somebody through? [00:25:44] Speaker B: Yeah, the goal with the physical challenges is the. To feel like they can handle stuff. Like the particular retreats I've been doing lately, there's some that are like yoga, meditation, hypnosis retreats and those are more peaceful, reset the nervous system type stuff and. But the ones that I've been doing a lot of lately is the warrior retreats. And those are definitely have physical challenges and it's. They will do like obstacle courses and. [00:26:14] Speaker A: Things like that sometimes. [00:26:16] Speaker B: Yeah. And sometimes it's. But I would say like the temescal, the last one we did actually had ayahuasca in it as well. We don't normal, it's a plant medicine type thing and we don't normally do retreats with that but once in a while. So that's a challenge of its own. But it was, yeah. Different challenges that just. I mean when you sit in a sweat lodge for a really long time, there's just some part like we want to take you to that point that's like, I don't think I can handle this. And then have something else just like shoot through and you're like, I can handle anything. Bring it on. Boss. Partner. Life. [00:26:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, life. Yeah, exactly. You know, it's a confidence builder because in all seriousness, you know, I think a lot of people get. Get brown beat and beat down by the day to day activities of life. Right. And so by having something like that, it shows you and it opens your mind up and you need that challenge and it's not like a standard challenge either. Right. Like it's not static. Like I'm gonna lift this weight or I'm gonna go 15 minutes more on this treadmill. Yay me. You know, this is literally like breaking down every kind of part, who you could be and then powering through it. And then you're seeing similar people as well too, that could be at that same stage in life that you're at. And that's, that's one wonderful thing, you know. So is this year round you do this, this like this is a year round. Oh, that's, that's great. Extra warm weather, cut climates to do it, do it in. That's awesome. [00:27:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. All the time. As many retreats as I. Yeah, I love it. Like four retreats a year and. Yeah, that's awesome. The best thing to just kind of, well, to form these little tribe pods. And we all keep up too. We just had a call yesterday and where we just check in, like, how's life going? And because also people go back to their worlds where they don't have so many of those like minded connections. So keeping up and like. Yeah, I guess having that sense of community can be powerful. [00:28:16] Speaker A: That's really cool. [00:28:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:18] Speaker A: Do, do when people go out there, do they have to. Would you recommend they're in some sort of physical condition before they put themselves through something like this? Because you know, oh my God, it's. [00:28:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it's different. It's different for we had in the last one, the youngest be an 18 year old guy, which I think is so cool that you're 18 and you're just like deciding right at the like the minimum age that you could join that you want to go and like find your warrior spirit. That's amazing. And then the oldest we had was in his. I believe he was in his 60s. So for us it doesn't really matter. I've seen 95 year old people in the jungle. It's just like who are they? You know, like, are they the ones on. If they're on walkers or wheelchairs, probably not, you know, but if they, if they walk and if they're comfortable, but they might not do all the challenges. Like in the last one we had a, we had a dance challenge too. Like we had people pick between doing a dance off or, or like the fight club challenge, they might not do. I don't know. [00:29:27] Speaker A: Don't tell them. Like I'm obviously like, God forbid somebody actually got like broken bone. But is it just like stimulated kind of things like that? I have no Idea what a fight club challenge would be that you can't leave that on the vine, so to speak. [00:29:39] Speaker B: They do. So what we did is we had Muay Thai fighters come in and teach them how to do some cool stuff. And then after that, they would spar each other. And so they would pick, like, they would pick the level that they want to spar. So maybe they pick. Someone says, oh, I want to spar at, like, 10 strength, or I want to spar at 30 strength, and then just kind of check. [00:30:05] Speaker A: That's dope. [00:30:06] Speaker B: And then some of them were more intense. They're like, I want to go 60. And so they wait for someone in the group to be like, oh, I want to go 62. We didn't go higher than that. But. But it felt for those guys that, you know, what we attracted in this retreat was people who were looking to feel like that maybe felt more stuck or disempowered before, and they were looking to feel that they. That they can, you know, handle these things. And. And so when they did this and they. They had never fought before. [00:30:47] Speaker A: Anybody who says they can go at 60 with a Muay Thai fighter, you know, in their first party session, never fought before. [00:30:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. [00:30:58] Speaker A: You don't. Don't do that. You don't do that. [00:31:00] Speaker B: No, I would probably do. I would do maybe 20. [00:31:05] Speaker A: Easily. Easily. I take Maritai, so I know exactly. Yeah, it's. You know what? No, you know, that's a horrible idea. But. No, I mean, in the gossip, I'm just thinking in my head, like, yo, man, you really want to do that? But. [00:31:17] Speaker B: Yeah, but I think it's powerful, especially for, like, both for women and for men. For men to feel, like, not that they want to, you know, run around hitting or kicking the world, but just to feel like they can. Like. To feel like they can defend themselves. I think it's so important. And for women, too. I think a lot of women have a lot that's just kind of, like, suppressed, and so it's nice to just like, get it out of our body. But, yeah, so they would pick either fight club or dance a dance off. And. And we encourage them to choose whichever one scares them more. So some of the bigger buff guys, they were, like, honestly, dancing scares anymore, so. So then they would do the dance part. Yeah, good for you. But, yeah, it's fun stuff. [00:32:04] Speaker A: That's. That's really cool. That's really. How far off the grid are these locations? Like, it's like you land in the most, you know, vacation and Then there's your. Your big. The recommended area based upon travelocity, etc. How far off are you from that area where you have your retreats? [00:32:23] Speaker B: We don't really ever do. I don't really ever do anything that's in the cities or something. It's normally a bit off the grid just because weird stuff happens. Like one of the challenges is yelling, you know, so just if we're yelling in a city, I don't know what's going to happen is are the cops going to come, like, think something's wrong, you know, so we have a yelling challenge where we just like, we're. Yeah. So we always try to do it a little bit outside of the. The city. Like we have one coming up in Maui in June and it is. That one's pretty much in the middle of the jungle. And then the ones in Mexico are in this tiny town called Valladolid. So it's. Yeah. [00:33:16] Speaker A: This stuff. This stuff. But yeah, I mean, who's gonna go on a retreat just so you can stay downtown where cars and taxis are flying right past you and everything? So I gotta tell you, you know, this has been one of the more interesting because I have so many because I. I can't even. It's so off the grid of what I would, you know, think of what's possible in life. Right. Like here you are in the jungle, right. You know, meeting new people, strangers. This is like some like 1970s, like hippie type stuff that just goes through my head and it seems like a very peaceful. [00:33:47] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Like whoever we are is perfect somewhere. Yeah. I think I pressed my little. [00:34:03] Speaker A: Of course, of course. What's the most fascinating place that you've been, you know, since you. [00:34:07] Speaker B: Maui's been my home for the last 10 years and I am obsessed with it, but it's also kind of mainstream. It seems like most people go to Hawaii, think, fascinating. That's off the grid. I was just in Venezuela and. And it was so cool. Like, only heard weird stuff online and. But to be there, it was gorgeous and the people are so kind and it's just the most beautiful places. There's this. These islands called Los Roques and they are just incredible. Like magical sand bars with beach on both sides and you're just walking down. It's gorgeous. Yeah. [00:34:48] Speaker A: Nice. How many languages? [00:34:51] Speaker B: But yeah, I normally try to learn a word here and there, but I'm not the best at that one. Luckily most of the world speaks English, but. [00:34:59] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. So I just was curious. I'm like, okay, she's Been so many different places. Maybe she's learned just three, four, five different languages as you've gone. Well, you know, did you have any questions for me? You know, I know that I've kind of picked your. Your brain and been able to kind of figure out how your world works. And this has been one of the more fascinating interviews that I've had, you know, and I'm honored and pleasured. [00:35:24] Speaker B: What's your biggest dream right now? [00:35:26] Speaker A: Did you have anything you wanted to ask me? Make this podcast as successful as possible? You know, I think the best part about it is that I got a chance to talk to people a lot smarter than me. Right. And so when you start to look at what, what people do, I was never, you know, the re. I'll call the reason I call this a Tron podcast. I've told this to a number of different people have been guests. I'm not skilled enough to create something. Like, I can't code. I can't, you know, work on cars. I'm not an electrician. I'm not a plumber. The one kind of gift that I kind of like, started figuring out, like, what am I good at with my head and, you know, my kind of gift of gab, I like to know stuff, you know, I'm not. It came to the point where I felt like if I talk to smarter people, adventurous people, risk taking people, that I could kind of find my niche when it came to something like this. And so that was where I finally said, when you said earlier on your show, kind of get out of your own head and just do it. My biggest concern was, what if this, right? What if he's gonna straight up? Like, what if it sucks? You know? You know what I mean? Like, you know, like, people say whatever they want. They don't want to suck at stuff, right? Like, you know, you don't, you know what I mean? Like, so I was like, okay, well, you know, and then people started saying, yo, your idea is fascinating. I was like, maybe I'm onto something here. Maybe people do. It's kind of fascinating. So. Because I'm not great at one particular thing. [00:36:55] Speaker B: Well, I think that it's really cool when people are so honest about what if this sucks? Because I just posted something like that on Instagram of like, we have to just stay resilient because all of us have that thought. All of us have, like, this, this. What if this isn't enough? Or what if it doesn't? You know? And so I think it's really cool when people are so Honest. And they're just like, yeah. [00:37:17] Speaker A: And then you. Then you never do it right? Then you're just like, yeah, you know what? I'll just stay on this little, you know, my little. My sandbox over here because, you know, my voice, you know, and it's funny because you won't find if you're good at a podcast or interview until you actually start talking to people and getting feedback, because what happens is you can fall in love with your own cooking, right? Which means, like, oh, I. What? Everything I taste is great. And then you serve it to somebody and they're like, this is awful, dude. What did you make? Right? So I think I'm doing this okay because people have told me I'm doing okay, but I'm always looking for the next. [00:37:54] Speaker B: I think that's so valuable because people don't also have. Like, we all have our own network, and I think if some people don't have access to what's possible out there, like, I. That used to be me, you know, Like, I didn't even know podcasts were a thing. I don't know if they were back then, but I. There wasn't anyone telling me that you could do anything any differently. And so I think that people who do this, who start these podcasts and to try to bring voices into their world, just to share where it's not that it's wiser, cooler, whatever, it's just. It's different. And it's something that maybe inspires them to. To just, like, it invites in a thought that, oh, I could do something differently, you know, And I think it's cool. [00:38:42] Speaker A: It's easy to sit back and say, like, for me, like, talking to somebody like yourself and some of the other guests that I've had, you know, it's not the conversation about the football game yesterday that. Right. And I'm not saying that there's not valuable, you know, things to be had about being entertained by football or, you know, movies, which I watch both of in boxing and mma. But, like, this is a. This is something that's so, like, you have to really be in it to talk about it. Like. Like, I can come back and say, you know, I talked to somebody who's a world traveler, hypnosis expert, and a retreat specialist. People can say that, and you do that for a living. Right? And here's my. Right. Like, it doesn't. It's not a normal conversation that people would say they had. [00:39:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:24] Speaker A: So that's what fascinated me about this. You know, it's just. It's really cool. So, you know, outside of that, you know, I don't have, you know, any earth shattering, you know, Oprah like, questions for you. You know, I feel as though I've probably monopolized enough of your time. So unless you have anything else, it has been an absolute honor. Before you get off, though, I want people to be able to know how to reach you. Obviously don't need me to get clients, but for this, the first time now. [00:39:53] Speaker B: I think the best is on Instagram, Traveler of Love, because it's just where I keep the most fresh info of what's going on. Yeah. [00:40:07] Speaker A: Sure. For sure, for sure. For sure. So, you know anybody that'll definitely be, you know, a point of emphasis. You know, you may even see me and my wife out there. But good luck getting her out there. So that's. That's a different. That's a different monster when it comes to getting her in the jungle. [00:40:24] Speaker B: So, yeah. Thank you for having me. [00:40:26] Speaker A: Thank you so much for your time. It's been an absolute pleasure, of course.