Eva A. Morningstar - Creative Author and storyteller

[00:00:02] Speaker A: Listeners of the Tron podcast, this is your host, Rashad Woods. The Randomness of Nothing is very happy to bring on this guest today. She's a dark fiction author, entertainer from across the pond for us as well. Eva A. Morningstar, thank you so much. [00:00:16] Speaker B: Thank you for having me. [00:00:19] Speaker A: This is fun, right? So I got a chance to really dive into your background. I mean, you, you know, you reached out to me. You really have an interesting background when it comes to gothic arts fiction, and you're a big fan of movies, which I think will be a lot of fun out conversation, because I'm a huge movie fan, too. I saw particularly where you said Quentin Tarantino as well, too, so. Yeah, right up my alley. [00:00:37] Speaker B: Exactly. Yeah, exactly. I love the dark. I love the dark arts. You know, I know the gothic stuff and I love movies. I was just such a movie junkie, you know, it's like I can talk about it forever. [00:00:50] Speaker A: Same here. Same here. I will confess that I was not very impressed by Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, but overall, I'm a big fan of his work. Work that. Yeah, I had higher expectations for that movie. I was like, really? I was like, really, like, that's it. Like, you know, don't dis. I mean, like, I'm sure if he's not listening to this and if he did, he probably, you know, can't be every. Can't make everybody happy. But outside of that, he's made phenomenal motion pictures. [00:01:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. I agree. You know, the Kill Bill movie, I was like, I was really blown away. And a lot of people don't like the violence and the blood, but, like, I'm really into violence and blood. I like blood. So it's like, I really loved it. I really loved it. It was really phenomenal. [00:01:30] Speaker A: It really was. And you know, it was. I like the way it got stretched out over a couple years. You know, it's. It's, you know, he was ahead of the curve. He took a lot of those Japanese and, you know, even when he had, you know, Sonny Chiba in there as a sword maker. Right. For people like that are nostalgic, right? That. About that. And, you know, you had, you know, Uma Thurman, who was dressed up as Bruce Lee from the. From his. From the last film that he made. Oh, my gosh. When we fought Kareem Abdul Jabbar. The name's escaping me. It's a game of death. [00:01:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it was the game of death. Yeah, yeah. [00:01:59] Speaker A: Last unfinished film. So. Yeah, so like I said, you're right. Up my alley when it comes to, you know, movie fandom and things like that. So tell me, first of all, how did you get into writing entertaining and ultimately, you know, become who you are? Because that's what the show is all about. [00:02:11] Speaker B: Sure. I think this, the story is going to be a little bit depressing, but I'll try to keep it fun. It was, it was obviously like during COVID and I got very sick during COVID and I was honestly like in the beginning of my. And my life wasn't really going very far and I wasn't amused, I would say. And yeah, yeah, we have this saying, like, I have like Slavic roots and we have this saying, like. So people say, you know, when something breaks, everything just breaks at the same time. So everything just kind of broke down with me at the same time. It was, you know, held. It was like money and was the job and just where I'm at, the whole situation. I was like, really miserable. I was happy. [00:02:57] Speaker A: Right? [00:02:58] Speaker B: Yeah, like, it was, you know, it was just bad. So. So I just, you know, decided like one day, like, hey, listen, like, we're doing Covid and maybe I'm going to die tomorrow. And I'm like, still chasing, you know, the money, which I'm not trying to say it's not important. It's very important, obviously, but I was like chasing the money and I wasn't really chasing what I want to do. And after Covid, I just said, like, no, I'm just going to do whatever I want to do. Whatever is going to happen, it's happened. What's not going to happen, it's not going to happen. So that's basically how I put my mind and said, like, you know, that's it. I'm not chasing like just only the money because I have to. So. [00:03:39] Speaker A: Yeah, right. [00:03:40] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:03:42] Speaker A: You know, and you know, you know, I mean, that was an earth shattering event that took place too. So you're talking about something that, you know, once a generation, I mean, obviously you're in Europe, you know, the Black Plague, and obviously, you know, people, you know, I don't want to equate it to that, but there are cataclysmic events that happen in history where people somehow start to reevaluate things and how they wanted things to accomplish, things they wanted to accomplish or how they. Their life trajectory wanted to go. So when that happened and you decided to pursue writing and entertaining, like, what was your first foothold into that industry? Did you know somebody or did you just have to kind of learn it. [00:04:19] Speaker B: Along the way, I unfortunately didn't know anyone. I was honestly broke. Honestly, I'm not ashamed to say to this day right now, I'm still broke. Yep. I'm a broke artist. So there it is. I'm just putting it out there. [00:04:33] Speaker A: Listen. Yeah, there's no shame. And I would. I don't. I don't know enough artists to speak on it, but I've heard that for all the people that you see on TV and on the Internet, they're not making nearly as much as people think that they are. Right. [00:04:47] Speaker B: I heard about that. I mean, it might be true, but like. Like, I don't know. I can't. I can't speak for them. Right. But here's the thing. Like, I'm, you know, like, I'm. I'm, like, I was broke. I'm still broke, but it's like, you know, like, I'm fine. I'm hoping for the best. I'm hoping that the stars will align for me in some sort of type of way. But I didn't know anyone. I honestly never wrote anything before my whole entire life. So I had to. Yeah, I had to. I really had to figure out how to write a book, you know? [00:05:19] Speaker A: Right. [00:05:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:21] Speaker A: So what's the name? What's the name of the book? I think I wrote the name of the book. It was. It was a Different Armor. Different. Different. [00:05:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Honestly, I didn't. I didn't, like, give out the name of the book because the book is, like, not out right now. Like, I just. Yeah, I just finished writing. I just got off with my editor. Like, I got. I got lucky with the editor and all that stuff, but. But it's not published yet. But I just kind of meant to say, like, you know, I went through a lot of stuff in my life, and I just really used a lot of different faces to kind of get myself through things, you know, because. Yeah, like right now. Like right now I can say, you know, at this moment, like, I'm in Europe, you know, Europe has a serious. You know, I don't want to get into political stuff, but Europe has a serious problem, you know, with how they treat people with migration. I know maybe some going to say, yeah, mass migration, it's not good. It is not good. But there's like two categories of, like, mass migration. You know, the people who just want to live and integrate and do good. Those kinds of people are just kind of like getting punished for just being good and the wrong type of people. They're like getting all the benefits in here. That's, you know, that's how it worked. I know it's like. It's sad, but just how it works. So, yeah, so, you know, I really have went through a lot of trauma, and I went through, like, really survival, and I'm, like, coping, like, with mental health and a lot of issues. But, yeah, so that's what I said. I said, like, you. You know, I don't think being cruel is a good thing, but when you're, like, in a survival mode for a such a long time, unfortunately, you have to become cruel to survive. Like, I don't want to say it, but it's just the way it is. [00:07:06] Speaker A: Did you find yourself when you were, you know, you're coming out of COVID and you're kind of like, you know, kind of creating that second act in life, so to speak? Did you find that it was entertaining and being out there and putting yourself out there was a better place for you to sit back and say, okay, I'm gonna have this Persona. I'm gonna write books. I'm gonna be, you know, my true authentic self, so to speak. Because I asked that. Because sometimes people get to certain places in life where they have an itch they need to scratch or they have a yearning desire to be a better version of their own selves. And sometimes it takes a Covid, sometimes it takes a tragedy. Sometimes it takes, you know, a certain level of. I don't want to say dissatisfaction. But they didn't reach their full potential. Right. Is that something that almost dawned on you to say, you know what? I'm going to throw caution to the wind, and this is what I'm going to create? [00:07:56] Speaker B: Yeah, in a way, because I don't feel like I have anything to lose anymore, you know, like. Yeah, like, I don't. Like, you know, like I said, like, I'm kind of past my early. So, you know, the way I see it, I said, like, okay, well, if I'm going to make it till, like, 70 or 80 years old, which maybe I'm not going to make it, like, the most. The most part of my life, it's like, it's gone, you know, like, the big chunk of your life, it's gone. So I don't really have, like, a lot of time and space. And, yeah, with COVID I've seen, you know, like, people literally, like, were dying or people lost, like, everything. So I said, you know what? Like, this is. Like, this is my last shot. I don't have anything to lose. What's going to happen? Whatever doesn't happen. What? [00:08:43] Speaker A: Right, Right. So let's talk about, you know, writing. What are some of your inspirations for writing and some of your authorship? Where did you draw from? You know, because when I had a chance to look at your social media profile handles, I was like, okay, this seems like it's almost like some underworld type of stuff, right? Like, you know, underworld. Like, I was a big fan of, you know, those vampire flicks and, you know, like, the Crow kind of a deal. Like, I'm a big. I don't. I don't know what that abomination was they made last year. So I'm not counting that. I'm only counting, like, I didn't even watch it because the trailer completely turned me off. God bless Brandon Lee soul. But, like, I was really a big fan of, like, the first movie. And so, you know, that alley of Underworld, Slash Blade, Slash the Crow. I'm a big fan of that genre. So is that something that's up your alley or inspiration for how you've cultivated both your Internet personality as well as your authorship or upcoming authorship? [00:09:32] Speaker B: In a way, I would say yes. But I always had this kind of dark personality. You know, like. Like all the, like, my socials that I make. Like, even just when I joke, it's always kind of sarcastic and dark. And it's just the way that I am, honestly. But I would say I was just taking inspiration, obviously, from my not so amazing life, but I'm okay with that. And, of course, I had, you know, things like Buffy. I was, you know, I was very. Yeah, I was very into Buffy. You know, I still have the. The major crush on Spike. I'm so. I'm so a Spike fan. Like, I just wanna. Yeah, I. You know, I still love that man till this day. Can you believe it? And he showed up on TV in 97, and here I am. [00:10:21] Speaker A: I was. You know, I'm aging myself because I remember when the movie dropped, right? Like, people think of, like, a TV show. I remember the 1992 movie with Christy Swanson and, oh, my gosh, was. He passed away. Rutger Howard. Yeah, Rutger Howard. [00:10:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:33] Speaker A: Right. And it also had Paul Rubin in there as well, too. So Phoebe Herman was in that movie. So, like, for people who only think of the TV show, It was a 1990. And Luke Perry, obviously. Right. So it was an older. It was. It was a 1991 or 92 film. And then it became this cult classic later on when it was developed into a TV series. [00:10:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So. So, you know, I draw my Inspiration, you know, like, from. From Buffy. I'm a big, like, Supernatural fan, you know, I don't know who doesn't love Supernatural, but I love Supernatural. And. And the writers, like, the writers are phenomenal because they sticked it out for 15 seasons for, like, 22 years. Yeah, it shows up. [00:11:16] Speaker A: When I was in high school. [00:11:17] Speaker B: Yeah. And they did an excellent job. You know, Like, I was like, man. And I'm sure you saw the last episode, man, I was crying, like, for two days after they killed. [00:11:30] Speaker A: I haven't seen. So I. It was on, like, you know, like, I didn't know it was still on, so. But I. You know, something that goes for 22 years is like a lifetime, so I'll confess, I didn't watch it, but I was. And it was still very highly rated. I think it's, like, the longest running, like, fiction show ever. [00:11:44] Speaker B: Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. [00:11:46] Speaker A: It was nuts. I was like. I remember I was seeing commercials for it, and I was like, there's no way this is still on tv. I said, there's a. Like. Because it was. And it looked like the two actors never aged. Like, never, like. [00:11:56] Speaker B: Yeah, they love. [00:11:57] Speaker A: You kidding me right now. [00:11:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:00] Speaker A: Because one of the lead actors is. Is on the Amazon Anti Hero show. [00:12:07] Speaker B: You mean the Boys? [00:12:09] Speaker A: The boys, yeah. Yes, he's on the Boys. Right. And I was like, oh, and he still looks the same age as when he started on on Supernatural. [00:12:18] Speaker B: Look, he looks amazing. He looks handsome. Like. Like, I don't know what else to say. I don't know what they're doing, but they just don't eat well, you know. [00:12:28] Speaker A: They could pass that to the rest of us. You know what I'm saying? Like, but, you know, obviously. So. Yeah, but this is. This is because, you know, I. I get a chance to really, like, when I dive into this show, I always try to make sure that people from different walks of life get a chance to have an opportunity to be on here. But one of the things that I haven't had a lot of opportunities to talk about is just, like, entertainment fiction. Because there's something about, like, those things that you can visualize but, like, you're almost scared to talk about. But it's really cool when you see it. [00:13:01] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:13:02] Speaker A: It's really, really cool when you see it. But you're like, that's really cool. But even if I'm glad, I don't live next to that kind of a thing. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, so when you see something like. Like. Like an underworld or you see something like a Supernatural, you know, it comes from X Files. I just watched. And this is where I'm gonna date myself a little bit. I had never watched the David lynch series Twin Peaks before. Right Before. And then I watched Twin Peaks, and then I watched the. The second. You know, the second season of it. And you're like, if anybody who's ever been a fan of David lynch, either you love it or, God bless his soul, either you love the guy or you absolutely hated his work. But it was something that you couldn't take your eyes off of when you watched it. [00:13:39] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. Yeah, I. I did. I did watch. I did watch Twin Picks, but I. I kind of must confess, I was. I was a little bit bored. But then maybe that's. Maybe that's my brain. I don't like slow burner stuff, you know, I just don't like it. Like, for me, I like plot, I like action. Things have to be complicated. A lot of secrets, a lot of twists, you know. That's what I like. [00:14:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It definitely. It definitely. It's one of those ones where if you're looking for, like, something instantaneous to happen, it wasn't that type of show. Do you. Do you go to, like, Comic Cons or do you do to any entertainment events? Because I saw the Internet personality that, you know, the things that you're trying to cultivate. Have you tried to, like, go to some conventions or things like that to really, like, build your brand of what you're trying to accomplish? [00:14:28] Speaker B: Sorry, no. Actually, I never considered of going to a Comic Con. Like, I tried to get to Comic Con one time, but only as a guest, because Spike was there and I really wanted to go and see him. [00:14:45] Speaker A: Okay. [00:14:46] Speaker B: And unfortunately, what happened is, you know, I could not get there because it was another city. So I could not get there. So I missed it. And I was completely devastated because I bought, like, the tickets and to see him, like a meet and greet, because I wanted to ask him questions, you know, I obviously wanted to tell that I'm, you know, that I'm madly in love with him for the past 30 years. And he would think that I'm a wacko, you know, But I said, but, yeah, you're fan. [00:15:16] Speaker A: It's all good. [00:15:16] Speaker B: Well, you know, I'm sure he hears that stuff all the time. Like, actually. [00:15:20] Speaker A: Sure. [00:15:21] Speaker B: Like actually a funny story. Like, my editor actually have met the guy. But it was like a long time. It was like somewhere like in the beginning of 2000, you know, like when Buffy was Like, still airing. And she said, you know, she said, like, I was so starstruck that I couldn't speak, and I felt like I was stalking the guy. [00:15:42] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, and I'm sure that, you know, these conventions that, you know, I've been to some comic conventions and you, you know, it's. They're great people and it's really exciting. Get a chance to see people in those. In those niche films. Right? So, like, you get a chance to see people in those movies that you saw as a kid that really resonated with you really highly. Right. They don't have to be the Oscar winning or Academy Award winning film. It could be this nice little B movie that made a great impact on your childhood or your social youth. Right. You know, I just, you know, I saw one with Ernie Hudson had showed up, right, From Ghostbusters. That guy's been in everything, right. And you're just like, that's Ernie Hudson. Right. You know, he's a big movie star, but he's in a lot of smaller films and he's created kind of this. This niche where everybody knows who he is, but it's not like you're seeing Tom Cruise, so to speak. [00:16:28] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:16:29] Speaker A: It's a great, It's a great medium. And I think that there's a. There's a space that's been very well cultivated. And because you're a fan of Quentin Tarantino, he's really mastered the B fan, the B movie fan with high quality motion picture experiences. Right. And it's, it's a. It's a really delicate line to balance. Right. Because you could tell he watched those obscure, quirky, unknown films even from the actors that he's cast in his movies. Right. Because he used to work in a video store. [00:16:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And I really. I really admire the guy that he is never, like, you know, ashamed or embarrassed to admit and say, like, yeah, I was inspired by this movie and I kind of, kind of, kind of copied from this movie with that, you know? [00:17:16] Speaker A: Yeah, sure. [00:17:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:18] Speaker A: It's really difficult because, you know, if you, if you watch a movie, I can't speak for Europe, but if you're in America, sometimes you'll watch a movie and you'll have no idea that it was lifted from an obscure European or Japanese type of. Because sometimes you only you won't even know it, right? So you'll just like, literally like the Departed. Right. A lot of people don't know that's a remake of, like, a Asian movie called Infernal Affairs. Right. People don't know that. Right. But you're like, oh, yeah, the Departed is a great movie. Like, well, yeah. Or like when you watch like the Magnificent, Magnificent Seven and all those Clint Eastwood movies. Well, that was created by Akira Kurosawa with all of his movies that he made with Tashiri Mafune, you know, yo, you know, the Seven Samurai, you know, the man with all those Sergio Leone motion pictures came from Japan, right? But if you're watching a Western and a traditional American Western, if you didn't do your homework, you wouldn't know and you would think that this is an original motion picture that you're watching. [00:18:15] Speaker B: True. Very true. Yeah, yeah, very true. Solely. Yeah, yeah. [00:18:21] Speaker A: It's amazing. And it's always, it's always fun to go down that wormhole of who is really the original. Who actually put this out. [00:18:28] Speaker B: Okay, so I do have, I do have this quick question because no, I'm not in the United States right now. So when people, like watching the movies in the United States, do they like really don't know that maybe this movie came from Europe or, I don't know, like from somewhere else? This is like a remake. [00:18:45] Speaker A: I think now because of the Internet, there's an opportunity for people to look it up quickly. But it's more like I can't speak on every educated film watcher, right? But because you and I are talking kind of in the same space, so we can sit back and say, well, no, that came from this, you know, 45, 50 years ago or even 20 years ago. So. But sometimes every once in a while, people will insist that this is an original motion picture and then you'll have to do a double take and you're like, no, that's not the case. So I don't, I don't know, like, I don't want to speak on everybody's knowledge, but I think if you're a film buff or TV buff, you may have a better answer about that. But I think the general casual watcher may not know that. Now it's also a case of, I mean, at some point ideas run out and somebody can lift from something and they don't even know, right? If you're a brand new director in your 20s and you're like, Dude, I, I was born in 2001. I had no idea this thing got made 1950. I just, I'm just watching. I'm just trying to make something in front of me. It's like music, right? You could think you're making a brand new original song not knowing it was Made by the, you know, an artist in the 60s and 50s. You're like, dude, I just, I didn't know. [00:19:53] Speaker B: Yeah, very true, very true. And I think this new generation, I don't really think that they really like know a lot of stuff, you know, like what, what happened, let's say like a generation before. I don't really think that they kind of maybe bothered to kind of educate themselves a little bit. That's just my opinion. Yeah, yeah. [00:20:13] Speaker A: But what's cool is, is that it does get a chance to get those people that, whose films they are using or their music they are sampling a chance to get royalties and things like that. But it's also, YouTube is also your friend. So there's nothing better than being able to go on here and say, where is this possibly lifted from? And so, you know, we use Quentin Tarantino as an example. He shamelessly took from other materials, but he made original content. It's really, really, it's a really difficult thing to do. To sit back and say, I'm going to shamelessly take from stuff that I watched and I'm going to make a completely original work in the process. Like that is very difficult to pull off while not being a copycat. And so, you know, whatever you're making or creating, you obviously are inspired by, but you still have to create your own voice. [00:20:57] Speaker B: Agree. [00:20:59] Speaker A: Yeah, it really is. It's almost like it's like in basketball, you know, God bless his soul. Kobe Bryant shamelessly stole from Michael Jordan. Shamelessly stole from Michael Jordan. But he became completely original because he was so good. Right? [00:21:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Agree. Totally agree with you. [00:21:16] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:21:17] Speaker B: I think when you are creating something and you're being inspired by something else, you really kind of have to pause and be, be your own judge and say, yeah, I can take inspiration, but I, but this is not like, not a copycat situation. [00:21:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it's really difficult. And I, I applaud you for your approach to things because you know, some people never get to that stage in life where they're saying, you know what, I'm going to throw caution to the wind because oftentimes people stay in, you know, very safe spaces for themselves because they want to do no harm or they don' to rock the boat, so to speak, or they're concerned about what people think about them. [00:21:51] Speaker B: That's very true. That's very true. I can't like give a statement about, you know, like the American mentality, but I can say like the people in Europe, they're not like very open minded. And what Goes for creativity. There's not really a whole lot that's going on in here, so. Yeah. [00:22:11] Speaker A: Yeah. And, you know. And you know what. What this show is, is designed to do is to give people the opportunity to be their authentic selves. And so you came when. When you messaged me, and I saw an opportunity to have you on. I said, man, this is something different, you know, because oftentimes I get a chance to talk to, you know, somebody who built a business, somebody who, you know, wrote a book or somebody. All different facets. But, you know, yours was stood out. Because I was like, how do I approach this interview? Because this is one that I haven't really, you know, dived in the alley for. But, you know, when it's all about saying, hey, I'm going to be my authentic self, I'm going to learn how to write a book from scratch. [00:22:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:45] Speaker A: You know. You know, penmanship be damned, so to speak, I'm gonna figure it out along the way. You. Right. So is the book going to be more autobiographical? Is going to be a fiction book? Is it? What's. What's the. [00:22:56] Speaker B: It's a dark fiction. It's dark fiction. And there's a lot of blended, you know, like, genres. But mostly, my editor told me, call it just urban fiction. Call it just urban fiction. But there is, you know, like I said, it's violent, it's bloody, it's very emotional. Because for me, I took a lot of my personal experience and, you know, it's like when you have this really bad experience, and it's like you have this box in your head and you say, do not open the box. Yeah, I didn't open the box, like, all the time. And I just dig in. And it's really, like. It really put me in a bad, like, mental space. But it's like, for me, I said, that's okay. I want to sacrifice it because it's really good writing. I'm. At least in my opinion, and at least in my editor's opinion, because I don't want to sound like I'm cocky or. Or something, but. But I think that's how you approach art. That's how you really get something really good. And I think, like, if I can give one example, I would say it's like the writers and Buffy. It's when they had this horrible scene in Buffy when, you know, Spike was trying to do something wrong with Buffy, and they said the writer was actually a female writer. So what? They did. Oh, yeah. You didn't know that? I heard. [00:24:15] Speaker A: I'VE heard about things that took place on the set of that show that were less than, you know, a professional. But I, yeah, I did. I wasn't knee deep enough. [00:24:24] Speaker B: Yeah. So, you know, what happens is, it's like, you know, the creator, you know, Josh Whedon, if I said his name correctly. Whedon, you know, he said like, to the writers, like, I want you to come up and give me your, like, worst day, your worst experience. [00:24:40] Speaker A: And that was like one of the. [00:24:41] Speaker B: Things and it's happened to a female. When a female approach her boyfriend, she thought it's just gonna get together one more time, that they're going to be together again. So they flip the sexes and this is like, you know, what happened. But. Yeah, but I think it's actually a very good way to write because, like, that you're not being safe. You're pushing the boundaries and you are not scared to put your characters through really bad stuff. But I think that's the way to go. I think when people get like attached and they are scared, I think it's not going to make like a very good story. I think it's a safe story. It's just automatically not really for me. So. Yeah. [00:25:22] Speaker A: And you know, you know, one of my favorite movies from Europe, it's a movie they dropped in like 2001 or 2002. And I watched it just recently, Brotherhood of the Wolf. I don't know if you have ever seen that movie. So it was a movie, it was a French film and so it was marked the cost. So basically there was this beast that was. That was. I think it was during like the French Revolution. And there was like this massive, like wolf like beast that was terrorizing this community. And it's mixing like martial arts with like the French Revolution, pre French Revolution. And. But it's really cool. So I think if you get a chance to get a fan of that. It was at one point, I think it was like the highest grossing French film of the year or all. It's one of the highest grossing ones. It was actually pretty successful in America too. But it mixed martial arts with. With that Victorian type era, you know, and, and so it, if you get a chance, I think you would really be a fan of that type of film because I think that might. You might find some inspiration in that type of genre as well, in that type of film as well too. It was subtitled. I love reading subtitles myself, personally. You know, I'm a big fan. I do. Because you know what? I. I'm a big fan of foreign films. I really am. One of my favorite films of all time was Lavie and Rose. I thought that was an absolutely stellar motion picture. I was incredible movie. [00:26:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:33] Speaker A: Because beauty about watching, you know, I think when somebody doesn't, even when it's not a language, you know, you can recognize facial expressions, you can recognize emotion. You hear somebody's voice quivering when they scream, you know, when something else is taking place that's not a normal conversation. Even if you don't speak the language that somebody's talking. Right. Just as a human being you can do. And there's something that's intricate by paying more attention because you don't know the language, the person speaking. [00:26:59] Speaker B: Very true, very true. So I must ask you this. So you talked about that you watch like European movies, but did you see any other type of movies? Let's say, did you see like, you know, like movies that were made like somewhere in Poland or somewhere in Russia or somewhere else? [00:27:21] Speaker A: Not as much like I've watched like, you know, I've watched French films before. Not to a couple Italian before. I've watched a lot of Asian films. One of my favorite movies of all time that I watched was a South American film called the Secret in Their Eyes. Right. There was a. I guess there was a really terrible US Remake, right. That came out a couple years ago, but the original one was basically it was an Argentinian film. And so it was a crime that took place. And then 20 years later, the prosecutor was still trying. I've seen I'm dating myself on the film, but it was an unresolved issue. But it was also a love story that was taking place because the gentleman who was the investigating it was still in love with the woman he was co investigating with it, but I think now she's a judge. And they were in trying to integrate who, who killed this, this man's wife from 25 years ago. But it had all these other things that were going on in front of it. And I remember watching the movie, I was like, man, you know, this is instant classic. And I guess it was the highest rate, highest grossing or second highest grossing Argentinian film of all time. So whenever I get a chance, I watch films like that because, you know, it resonated really deeply with me and it was one of the best movies I've ever seen. [00:28:27] Speaker B: Oh, okay. You know, I think I missed that movie because I didn't see it. [00:28:31] Speaker A: It's incredible. Absolutely incredible motion picture. It's an incredible motion. There's a really cool scene at a. At a soccer Stadium, which. Which was done really well. It's one of the more thrilling scenes that I've ever seen. [00:28:43] Speaker B: Okay. But I did see. I did see a Brazilian show that was very popular. It was in the beginning of 2000. I don't know if you heard about it. It was. Oh, my gosh. It was literally called something like it was about a cloning. It's about people and it was about cloning. And they put like all this type of drama in there and then they put like some religious views in there. It's all like really mixed. It's already mixed up. But I don't know if it got ever to America, but. Okay, from where I was watching, it was like a huge deal. It was a very big deal. Yeah, it was a very big deal. [00:29:22] Speaker A: It was ahead of the curve. And then, you know, one of the greatest films I've ever seen came from Brazil, which was City of God. [00:29:27] Speaker B: Right. [00:29:27] Speaker A: Like, that was. I was. If you've never seen City of God, I remember I saw that movie 2001. 2002. And it was. It was the gut punch of all gut punch movies, right? It was in the slums of like Rio de Janeiro. [00:29:39] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:29:41] Speaker A: It was absolutely wonderful motion picture. [00:29:44] Speaker B: There was a guy who had like a camera, am I right? He was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did see that, but it was like so much, you know, a long time ago that I forgot. I think it was a really good movie. It was done so well. It was so realistic. It was so good. So good. [00:30:01] Speaker A: It was one. I still like it. It felt like a documentary, like a real coming of age type of movie. So I asked and it was, you know, I could talk movies for days and I'm sure you and I will have some off camera conversations about movies. So I ask all the guests this not, you know, because, you know, you don't need me to get your name out there. But I always ask for the purpose of this show, where can people find Eva A. Morningstar? [00:30:22] Speaker B: They can find me on Instagram, on TikTok, Facebook threads and YouTube. And gosh, if you're going to ask me exactly what is like my, you know, my handle, I don't exactly remember. I can just only say it's. It's my name and it's probably has like an author or official or an 8 behind it. So. Yeah. [00:30:48] Speaker A: Well, that's what this show is all about, right? We're trying to cultivate audiences and stories in different walks of life, people who walk their own path. And just because it's not you know, a business that was built or it wasn't a Somebody who's trying to build a rocket ship to the moon doesn't mean it's not a compelling story to tell. And I. I appreciate you trying to be your authentic self, and you found that second chapter of what makes you happy. You know, ultimately, I feel very confident that the monitor, the. The monetary reward will come with. It is, as we saw from the writer strike and we. In the actor strike, you know, it's not as lucrative for some people that you think that it is, because I saw some of the pictures of people's residual checks that were. They were putting up, and you're like, whoa. Yeah, you're like, whoa. You wrote this hit show, and you're getting a residual check for two bucks? [00:31:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw that. I was shocked. Really. [00:31:37] Speaker A: I mean, what do you say? What do you even say? Like, you're sitting there, you're like, this show's getting viewed by 200 million people, like, on paper. In your mind, you're like, there's no way you get paid that for as many people are watching that. [00:31:48] Speaker B: Yeah, you're the. [00:31:48] Speaker A: You wrote this show. There's no way you're getting paid that for writing that show. And you're like, wow, you really are. [00:31:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree with you. I totally agree. [00:31:58] Speaker A: It's. [00:31:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's crazy. It's crazy. Like, absolutely crazy. I don't know how it happened, but I heard even the Supernatural creator, that he said something similar, and he was, like, kind of struggling, and he. Come on. Like, he wrote Supernatural. How is he struggling? Right? [00:32:14] Speaker A: Like, in your mind, you're like, there's no way. [00:32:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:18] Speaker A: Like, what do you mean? Like, the show is in syndication every single day, and you're like, there's no way you're not getting paid off this. [00:32:25] Speaker B: And, you know, for me, it's very crazy because I'm obviously, I'm not in America, so for me, like, you know, I'm watching everything, like, basically American, and then, like, I'm seeing the checks, and I really wonder, how is that possible? Because I don't understand. [00:32:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I, I. I mean, it just. I couldn't even. Somebody would have to sit back and explain that to me and. And make me understand that, because I just. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Right. I mean, that's criminal. [00:32:54] Speaker B: It is criminal. [00:32:54] Speaker A: It's criminal. [00:32:55] Speaker B: Yeah, it is criminal. [00:32:56] Speaker A: So. Yeah, that's a rough one. That's. That's right. Your face is on billboards. You're at conventions, and then when the show airs on the back end, you're getting paid, you know, what you got? [00:33:06] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, like a few dollars. That's. That's insane. [00:33:10] Speaker A: You, like, somebody photoshopped this. There's no way this is real. [00:33:13] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know, but I don't know. I think. I think there's other concerns right now. It's. Look, I'm not a, like, an AI hater, but I know it's a concern for many people, and I do. And I do feel like, like, the studios are going to be integrating the whole, like, AI thing. Maybe not 100%, but to some, you know, sort of point. And I think that's going to strike a lot of people once again. [00:33:40] Speaker A: Oh, I mean, you know, but, you know, I'll just leave it with this, is that, you know, you know, we all use chat gtp and we've all used AI for our benefit, and it does clean things up. But I, you know, can it really show, you know, like, writing a song? I've talked to songwriters on here. Can it really convey the emotion of somebody writing authentic song? Like, if they, you know, they lost their husband, they lost their wife, they lost their girlfriend. There's a trash event, right? Tragic, sad event. Is it really going to really convey that type of emotion if you just said, just spit this song out for me. If it didn't come from you, and it didn't come from really, like, what you really went through? [00:34:20] Speaker B: No, from the things that I saw online, like the, like the Tesla robots and all of that stuff. I really noticed that they can't, like, really mimic real emotion. They kind of can, like, copy and pretend, but they don't really feel anything. So I think that it's a tool that can help you clean something out. But I don't think it's like, I'm sorry, I don't think it's human. I don't have anything against it because it's. It's here recently. Like the rapper 50 Cent said, like, you can't go against it because it's too smart. So it's here, so it's better to use it, you know, but it's. It's not human. It can't humor. It can, like, mimic human emotion. It can't really feel for you. [00:35:03] Speaker A: One of my favorite, and I'll leave it with this, is because, like I said, I love conversations like this. My favorite movie of all time. I'd say best movie all time. My favorite movie of all time. Is a movie called Dark City, came out in 1998. I don't know if you've seen it. It was the director of the crow did it. And it was these. Basically these aliens would take over. They. They transported humans to try to find out what made them human. Right. So they would. They would. The city would turn dark at night. The city state. They would put them to sleep. [00:35:28] Speaker B: Okay. [00:35:29] Speaker A: And then they would take. They would exchange the memories amongst the humans the entire time so they could observe human emotion. Because their race was dying. They needed to find out human condition. Right. And I'll never forget, you know, if you've never seen it, movie's been out for 27 years. So I'll just spoil it for you. [00:35:44] Speaker B: Yeah, go ahead. [00:35:45] Speaker A: One of the biggest things about it was, you know, the guy, one of the guys was saying one of them woke up while all this was taking place. He said, you were looking at what made us human. He was like, you were looking. He was like, you're trying to go in here. You were looking in the wrong place. And he pointed to his chest. So it's all about your heart. It's not what happens in your head. Your head will get you only so many places. Your heart will take you to the moon and back. So thank you, Eva morning star, for your time on the show. [00:36:09] Speaker B: You're so welcome. You're so welcome. Thank you. [00:36:13] Speaker A: This is even a morning star, so I appreciate you for being on here. Thank you. [00:36:17] Speaker B: Thank you so much. I was happy to really, you know, talk since I'm such, you know, movie addict myself. So it was fun. [00:36:24] Speaker A: Movies all. [00:36:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:25] Speaker A: Talk to you soon. [00:36:26] Speaker B: Talk to you soon. Thank you. Bye. Bye. [00:36:28] Speaker A: You're welcome. [00:36:29] Speaker B: Bye. Bye. [00:36:30] Speaker A: Bye.